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Why no max tow on 5.0? Is the drivetrain lighter duty?

Old 01-23-2013, 02:12 PM
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The 5.0 is a capable motor to tow most things, it might not have the low end grunt/torque the EB has but it rolls fine, if your towing at 75% of capacity its time to think SD. To me its Ford directing the consumer to its highly marketable EB motors. If you could get the Max Tow and tow mirrors w/ a 11,100 rating(4x4) on the V8 identical to the EB..How many people would have opted for the V8 over the EB?
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Originally Posted by kozal01

5.0 makes more power yes but does it at a higher RPM then the 5.4 which makes the 5.4 a better towing motor. Cant just compare numbers, the torque curve is where the real info is.
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Originally Posted by MT-Ford
But more than my 5.4l with max tow.
Nope. The 5.4 has a better torque curve than the 5.0. The 5.4 with 6 speed is a better towing machine than the 5.0.
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Originally Posted by maplelakeduckslayer
You can get 3.73 gears in a 5.0 but it still won't be max tow rated. And in the '13's the max tow package can come with either size mirrors.

Max tow has some other upgrades but I won't go into those here. The main reason is Ford apparently believes the power band of the 5.0 is not suitable for towing as much as the Eco or 6.2, as those are the only 2 engines you can get in a max tow truck. Its been claimed there may have been some marketing behind setting these numbers and the engines that can tow it....whether or not thats true I guess only Ford knows for sure.
Max Tow gets you a little heaver rear axle rating and about 500 lb higher GVW translating into about 350 lbs more payload. There are other suspension upgrades that go along with it; like heavier front end bushings and leaf springs. I believe it also has more tubes in the radiator. And there is an upgraded hitch with more capacity. So, it is much more than mirrors.
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Originally Posted by kozal01
5.0 makes more power yes but does it at a higher RPM then the 5.4 which makes the 5.4 a better towing motor. Cant just compare numbers, the torque curve is where the real info is.
Yep, and this is also why EB is better than the 5.0 for towing. Better torque at lower RPM. We tow a 5,500 lb RV trailer on 3,000 mile+ trips. It is awfully nice to have the tranny hold 6th gear where other drivetrains are constantly shifting to maintain speed.

The 5.0 will tow just about anything the EB will tow. It's just that it is going to seem like it is working a bit harder because of the shifting.
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Originally Posted by dinoroush
It's not the go power it's the stopping power that you need with a truck pulling 8000#.
Any trailer rated at 8000# should have dual axles which also should have trailer brakes. Hence the integrated brake controller that's standard in the max tow. So go power is important.

How hard would it be on a torque converter when an engine has to rev high to get going? Or does it really matter.
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Thanks...Great info from all of you. I'd be able to get a decent deal on a 5.0 that's sitting on the lot. If I ordered one, it would be with the 6.2l but that would cost me quite a bit more.

Mainly was curious if the 5.0 was lighter duty than the rest with out max tow option. I probably would not need to tow more than 5000lb, I have a older f250 if I need to tow more.

But what someone said earlier I like to go overkill to give me that extra margin of safety and performance. I don't think I would ever try to tow 11,300lbs with my 2010 even though it's rated for it.
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Originally Posted by dinoroush
2011 scab 5.0 more than enough to tow 30 ft TT 5 wheel # 8000 lbs don't believe the hype, very strong motor.
You tow a 5th wheel with the 5.0.....what kind and what is the hitch weight?
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I recently towed around 8500lbs. My 5.0 with the brake controller and 3.73's easily pulled it. It held 6th gear just fine as well. Obviously towing 11,00lbs would be different, but then again why not have a bigger truck to pull that if you do it more than once a year.

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Originally Posted by acadianbob
Max Tow gets you a little heaver rear axle rating and about 500 lb higher GVW translating into about 350 lbs more payload. There are other suspension upgrades that go along with it; like heavier front end bushings and leaf springs. I believe it also has more tubes in the radiator. And there is an upgraded hitch with more capacity. So, it is much more than mirrors.

Never said the only difference was mirrors...I said I wasn't going into the other differences. Simply said that both mirrors are available in max tow in response to another poster.

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