View Poll Results: Are V8 Half Tons On The Way Out?
Yes



66
24.54%
No



203
75.46%
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Are The V8's Days Numbered?
The v8 isn't going away anytime soon, however eventually if you can get one in a 1/2ton, its most likely going to be equipped with auto start/stop and probably cylinder deactivation, its not a truck that I would want. With the kind of electrical issues these new vehicles are having, making them more advanced is causing more headaches. I would be going to a f250 or f350 when that crap happens. Any vehicle that has stated fuel economy numbers on the window sticker is affected by café standards. Medium duty trucks do not have these standards. Look at Ram, they now offer a 3.6 v6 and 8speed trans, its actually drives nice, wouldn't want to tow much with it though, and now they have brought out the insanely hard to work on vm 3.0 diesel, the tow numbers are pretty low right now, but I expect that will change next year. Nissan is releasing a new cummins diesel for its truck, mind you its a v8, but diesel, wish they would make it look better though. Its eventually going to happen for all 1/2tons.
Last edited by B-xp; Jan 9, 2014 at 08:39 PM.
My truck is almost a year old now and I have not had 1 single electrical/electronic issue at all. (sync oy)
The only headache I can see is people not able to get over the learning curve with new technology.
Happy to say that I am a tech junky and can't wait for hover drive.
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I'm getting 22 mpg @ 70 mph with a/c on already. If they dropped the limit to 60 we are already getting close to 25 mpg.
I've been in this business for almost 40 years now and even with gov standards rising, the oem's are meeting and exceeding that now.
You need to open your eyes or research a little more because you obviously have no clue on the subject. Your pulling numbers posted but not comparing them to real world standards as built.
Happy to educate you.
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I've been in this business for almost 40 years now and even with gov standards rising, the oem's are meeting and exceeding that now.
You need to open your eyes or research a little more because you obviously have no clue on the subject. Your pulling numbers posted but not comparing them to real world standards as built.
Happy to educate you.
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Educate who,, the car makers? the EPA? Obama? Who are you educating,, I think its the other way around,, the EPA is educating or should I say demanding higher fleet mpg's..Just cause your Scab is getting decent fuel econ doesn't mean Ford is now done..Just wait and watch it unfold..
I gotta say, there's no guarantee that the V8s are going anywhere... but, fuel economy has to get better. Yes, the 5.0 and EB have great economy for trucks when comparing it to historical mpg BUT gas prices are only going up. I still don't get why diesel isn't more popular in North America, it's been huge in Europe for years, eventually it has to be more acceptable. Dodge seems to have stuck their necks out but it's going to take time.
Anyway, I suspect that V8s will continue to decline on the sales charts where EBs are available (depending on how the reliability works out) and market demand will determine the engine options available... of course, governments will have their say too...
Of course, I'm no auto-industry expert, I'm just some guy who bought an F150, what the hell do I know?!?
Anyway, I suspect that V8s will continue to decline on the sales charts where EBs are available (depending on how the reliability works out) and market demand will determine the engine options available... of course, governments will have their say too...
Of course, I'm no auto-industry expert, I'm just some guy who bought an F150, what the hell do I know?!?
Math doesn't lie. Ford sells more f150s than anything else. Cafe is based on fleet averages. Having such a high volume truck means to meet the averages they have to sell a significant number of high efficiency cars or improve the mileage of the trucks. Fat tailed distributions make mean shifting quite hard and slow so ford and gm both have their work cut out for them.
Both higher efficiency and likely more car sales will happen and they will use pricing to make v8 engines unattractive to keep sales down. It is what they are doing now with the 6.2. The upcharge for it has nothing to do with cost to make it. They just don't want people to buy it so their mpg averages stay up.
V8 motors will continue getting smaller and more efficient. 1/2 ton trucks will continue their transition towards pavement Queen's and people movers making the need for power lower. I suspect in the future to have an equivalent truck you will have to get a HD or 3/4 ton.
The writing is on the wall unless ford can shift sales more towards efficient cars. Otherwise the success of the 1/2 ton truck will doom the 1/2 ton truck within 20 years.
Of course, rising gas prices may take care of this and make it inevitable even without cafe standards.
Both higher efficiency and likely more car sales will happen and they will use pricing to make v8 engines unattractive to keep sales down. It is what they are doing now with the 6.2. The upcharge for it has nothing to do with cost to make it. They just don't want people to buy it so their mpg averages stay up.
V8 motors will continue getting smaller and more efficient. 1/2 ton trucks will continue their transition towards pavement Queen's and people movers making the need for power lower. I suspect in the future to have an equivalent truck you will have to get a HD or 3/4 ton.
The writing is on the wall unless ford can shift sales more towards efficient cars. Otherwise the success of the 1/2 ton truck will doom the 1/2 ton truck within 20 years.
Of course, rising gas prices may take care of this and make it inevitable even without cafe standards.
I don't think V8's will go anywhere mainly because of sales. Ford and other manufacturers know that a lot of truck buyers want a V8 regardless of how efficient they can make a V6. By not offering a V8 it will destroy sales.
Well with the 2015's hitting dealer lots with 3 V6 engines and only 1 V8 option, I thought I'd resurrect this old thread and see what people are feeling on the topic now...
I still don't think V8's will totally disappear (I really hope they don't) but its hard to argue with new technologies.
I still don't think V8's will totally disappear (I really hope they don't) but its hard to argue with new technologies.






