Traction control question
#1
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Traction control question
OK, so we all know traction control kicks in pretty quickly when it is slick out and you mash the gas from a stop.
The other day however, at 60mph on the highway, what was a wet road suddenly turned icy and I found the rear end sliding to the left (I was in the left lane), the front was heading toward the right lane and I saw no lights on the dash (could be I just did not notice them I suppose, I was far more concerned with not going off the road). I lifted my foot off the gas, steered to the left and caught it before even hitting the shoulder (passenger side front tire got as far as the rumble strip).
Was not fun at all less than 100 miles into a 300 mile trip.
Any ideas why the traction control and other nanny stuff that keeps up from having fun would not have kicked in when I probably could have used it? Everything happened real quickly and it was all very smooth when it happened but I thought that is what it was supposed to be there for.
Anyway, snowing today and I've got to go to Fredericton and back (~150 miles each way).
Have a great day all.
The other day however, at 60mph on the highway, what was a wet road suddenly turned icy and I found the rear end sliding to the left (I was in the left lane), the front was heading toward the right lane and I saw no lights on the dash (could be I just did not notice them I suppose, I was far more concerned with not going off the road). I lifted my foot off the gas, steered to the left and caught it before even hitting the shoulder (passenger side front tire got as far as the rumble strip).
Was not fun at all less than 100 miles into a 300 mile trip.
Any ideas why the traction control and other nanny stuff that keeps up from having fun would not have kicked in when I probably could have used it? Everything happened real quickly and it was all very smooth when it happened but I thought that is what it was supposed to be there for.
Anyway, snowing today and I've got to go to Fredericton and back (~150 miles each way).
Have a great day all.
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#3
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OK, so we all know traction control kicks in pretty quickly when it is slick out and you mash the gas from a stop. The other day however, at 60mph on the highway, what was a wet road suddenly turned icy and I found the rear end sliding to the left (I was in the left lane), the front was heading toward the right lane and I saw no lights on the dash (could be I just did not notice them I suppose, I was far more concerned with not going off the road). I lifted my foot off the gas, steered to the left and caught it before even hitting the shoulder (passenger side front tire got as far as the rumble strip). Was not fun at all less than 100 miles into a 300 mile trip. Any ideas why the traction control and other nanny stuff that keeps up from having fun would not have kicked in when I probably could have used it? Everything happened real quickly and it was all very smooth when it happened but I thought that is what it was supposed to be there for. Anyway, snowing today and I've got to go to Fredericton and back (~150 miles each way). Have a great day all.
#4
I've noticed this also. But ive also noticed that sometimes when its doing this, it isnt limiting throttle input at all.
I just figured there were certain parameters that had to be met for each condition.....I really have no clue as the the why and whats of the system.
Know you are not alone though....
#5
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just a guess but I would assume if the system did not activate is was because none of the wheels were spinning or locked up! In ice your wheels can still be turning even though you are sliding, just a matter or inertia! If you take a look at some videos of ice road accidents and so on you will see cars sliding all over the place,,, most have the wheels locked as a drivers desperate try to stop however if you look you will see cars going side ways at the tires are still moving. You did the right thing by taking your foot of the gas pedal only as if you would have hit the brake the system would have activated. So again I think if it didn't activate is was due to no spinning or locked up wheels.. I doubt you will get a perfect conditions as you were in again and the system will be doing what it can to get you back in control!
#6
My guess is it has to be under power. If you don't have any throttle input, it doesn't care if things are moving. I don't believe the system has anything to do with keeping a vehicle from sliding, when decelerating for example, only keeping the wheels from breaking loose under acceleration.
I could be completely wrong though.
I could be completely wrong though.
#7
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My guess is it has to be under power. If you don't have any throttle input, it doesn't care if things are moving. I don't believe the system has anything to do with keeping a vehicle from sliding, when decelerating for example, only keeping the wheels from breaking loose under acceleration. I could be completely wrong though.
Other times, I've gone down my driveway and all 4 tires locked because it was so slick. Thinking the truck wasn't still moving, the ABS didn't even try kicking in. I believe it's to do with the computer sensing what the tires are doing in comparison with each other, steering angles, throttle input etc.
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#8
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I'd be happy it didn't kick in at that point, seen too many railroaded into ditches by Posi's or limited slip DF's
Truck gets sideways, traction is regained, shoots ya straight into the ditch, or worse, oncoming traffic.
Truck gets sideways, traction is regained, shoots ya straight into the ditch, or worse, oncoming traffic.
#9
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Toss a few hundred pounds of sand in the back I use play sand from the blue borg. It is cheap easy to carry and take out in the spring. Weight is your friend in the winter. As for TC I have had it save me as well as screw me up. I learned to drive a long time ago before cars and trucks where smarter then the drivers.
#10
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Don't get me wrong, I was not disappointed that it did not appear to kick in. I was pretty happy that I managed to keep it on the road. Just seemed odd.