Towing Question...2012 F150 5.0 Supercrew....
#11
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It's a great motor and has done well I just don't like the "you can't tow anything comfortably unless you have an Eco" mentality. There have been motors for over a century towing loads of all sizes before the Eco came out.
OP, I'm not weight police but you may want to rethink it.
#12
It's amazing I can even get the 380 ft. lbs to move my truck down the road.
#13
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#15
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Ok Things do get fuzzy when comparing Eco tow specs vs. other available motors. I have towed ALL my TT's with diesels: an F350, GMC 2500 and Ram 2500? Just because Ford says you can tow 10K plus with an Eco doesn't mean that you should. Somewhere in the equation of towing specs there needs to be common sense...something that is not on the option list!
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#16
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Ok Things do get fuzzy when comparing Eco tow specs vs. other available motors. I have towed ALL my TT's with diesels: an F350, GMC 2500 and Ram 2500? Just because Ford says you can tow 10K plus with an Eco doesn't mean that you should. Somewhere in the equation of towing specs there needs to be common sense...something that is not on the option list!
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#17
Just to clear up a couple things mentioned above. First, a state trooper doesn't care what is on your door sticker. They look at your tags. Also, it is possible and legal to make modifications to your vehicle to increase the GCVWR. The biggest issue is the drivers license required if you go over something like 23K or 26K lb (if I remember those #s right)
For the "reduced" HP and torque of the 5.0, these trucks all have way more HP and torque of the 1960s model farm trucks I used to drive with close to 30K lb fully loaded. I'd even suggest that they have similar (if not more) braking capabilities. Things have just changed phenomenally over the past couple years as far as capabilities.
As far as my opinion for towing 10K, which would put your GCVWR at around 16K, I'd ask how far, how often, what terrain, and what type of roads. Taking it up the Ike Gauntlet, even once would NOT be a good idea, IMO. Likewise, stop and go city traffic would not be wise.
Driving it 50 or 60 miles on relatively country roads where you could take it slow would probably come out OK, if only done occasionally.
Obviously, my advice, as well as the other opinions, are basically worth what you paid for it. In the end, you and you alone, will be the responsible party if something were to go wrong.
--Rick
For the "reduced" HP and torque of the 5.0, these trucks all have way more HP and torque of the 1960s model farm trucks I used to drive with close to 30K lb fully loaded. I'd even suggest that they have similar (if not more) braking capabilities. Things have just changed phenomenally over the past couple years as far as capabilities.
As far as my opinion for towing 10K, which would put your GCVWR at around 16K, I'd ask how far, how often, what terrain, and what type of roads. Taking it up the Ike Gauntlet, even once would NOT be a good idea, IMO. Likewise, stop and go city traffic would not be wise.
Driving it 50 or 60 miles on relatively country roads where you could take it slow would probably come out OK, if only done occasionally.
Obviously, my advice, as well as the other opinions, are basically worth what you paid for it. In the end, you and you alone, will be the responsible party if something were to go wrong.
--Rick
#18
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All the 5.0 owners get butt hurt easily. Wasnt trying to bruise the fragile ego of non eco owners. You ask a question of tow ratings and PART of the answer is the ability to move a load to highway speeds in a certain time. The 5.0 has a very large deficiency in low rpm torque and is likely reason do the difference, or at least in part. No comparison. Not about drag racing but about moving a heavy load into traffic safely. The 5.0 w/o struggle to move certain loads because it was designed for a mustang -making its power in the upper rpm range. It is what it is. Is a very good base engine....
#19
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All the 5.0 owners get butt hurt easily. Wasnt trying to bruise the fragile ego of non eco owners. You ask a question of tow ratings and PART of the answer is the ability to move a load to highway speeds in a certain time. The 5.0 has a very large deficiency in low rpm torque and is likely reason do the difference, or at least in part. No comparison. Not about drag racing but about moving a heavy load into traffic safely. The 5.0 w/o struggle to move certain loads because it was designed for a mustang -making its power in the upper rpm range. It is what it is. Is a very good base engine....
The two motors make their power differently and are both capable at towing, Ford will market the Eco as their premiere engine as that's what they want to go towards.
The 5.0 was designed for this truck, sure it shares some similarities but it's designed for the truck, you could then say you have a Tarus Show motor in your truck!
You cannot see the big picture, you are so set in stating your Eco superiority that you fail to see it.
Once again, both motors will get a 10,000 pound load moving, the Eco a couple seconds faster and mine a couple slower but these motors will get around fine BUT it's the brakes, axles, suspension, wheel base that contributes MORE than engine size in these circumstances.
I love my 4.6 3v with 6 spd and 3.73. I get just as good gas milage as the other motors (real world not inflated) and I can tow my 7000 pounds fine.
Like I've mentioned, marketing hype. No reason a 5.0 can't tow the same as a similar equipped Eco except for the Ford guys saying so.
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#20
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Lol, likewise, every Eco owner seems to think his dick size is a direct correlation to his turbos!
The two motors make their power differently and are both capable at towing, Ford will market the Eco as their premiere engine as that's what they want to go towards.
The 5.0 was designed for this truck, sure it shares some similarities but it's designed for the truck, you could then say you have a Tarus Show motor in your truck!
You cannot see the big picture, you are so set in stating your Eco superiority that you fail to see it.
Once again, both motors will get a 10,000 pound load moving, the Eco a couple seconds faster and mine a couple slower but these motors will get around fine BUT it's the brakes, axles, suspension, wheel base that contributes MORE than engine size in these circumstances.
I love my 4.6 3v with 6 spd and 3.73. I get just as good gas milage as the other motors (real world not inflated) and I can tow my 7000 pounds fine.
Like I've mentioned, marketing hype. No reason a 5.0 can't tow the same as a similar equipped Eco except for the Ford guys saying so.
The two motors make their power differently and are both capable at towing, Ford will market the Eco as their premiere engine as that's what they want to go towards.
The 5.0 was designed for this truck, sure it shares some similarities but it's designed for the truck, you could then say you have a Tarus Show motor in your truck!
You cannot see the big picture, you are so set in stating your Eco superiority that you fail to see it.
Once again, both motors will get a 10,000 pound load moving, the Eco a couple seconds faster and mine a couple slower but these motors will get around fine BUT it's the brakes, axles, suspension, wheel base that contributes MORE than engine size in these circumstances.
I love my 4.6 3v with 6 spd and 3.73. I get just as good gas milage as the other motors (real world not inflated) and I can tow my 7000 pounds fine.
Like I've mentioned, marketing hype. No reason a 5.0 can't tow the same as a similar equipped Eco except for the Ford guys saying so.
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