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Old 03-20-2012, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kjo43
All these add-ons are great, but they don't increase the legal capacites of your truck. If you are overweight, you are over... period.

Operating overweight is ignorant. Can you do it? sure... will you make it safely? probably... If something were to happen, is your insurance company going to 'head for ze hills' ? Absolutely.

Not sitting here saying I've never gone over myself, just saying there are huge stakes at play, and there's alot to think about.

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This is why I don't have my otherwise great Dakota any longer. It was overloaded and I was afraid of what could happen. Fault quickly rests with YOU if you are involved in an incident and are shown to be over loaded on any axle. I look forward to hitting the road with my bitchin' Max Tow F150.
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Also be careful turning with 5th wheel and short bed will be in your back glass if not careful, no tight turns. I would also make sure I am tagged for correct weight, if not and you do forbid have an accident your insurance company has the right to decline the claim since you didnt follow correct wieght requirements in tagging it. Also can get ticket if you got stopped or had accident, just saying.
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Originally Posted by rbroome101
Also be careful turning with 5th wheel and short bed will be in your back glass if not careful, no tight turns. I would also make sure I am tagged for correct weight, if not and you do forbid have an accident your insurance company has the right to decline the claim since you didnt follow correct wieght requirements in tagging it. Also can get ticket if you got stopped or had accident, just saying.
That is a boss looking 5er. Apparently it is designed to work with the 5.5' box without a sliding hitch. I didn't know such a beast existed before today.

Does 'tagging' mean the signage seen on the side of commercial tow rigs?

I don't think he could get tagged. He needs Max Tow and/or HD Payload because he is overloaded.
"My GAWR on the rear axle is 4050 and I'm at 4260, and for the vehicle GVWR of 7350, I'm at 7900. "

EDIT: Needs HD Payload. My Max Tow GVWR is only 7650. I don't think it gets above 7700.
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Originally Posted by kjo43
All these add-ons are great, but they don't increase the legal capacites of your truck. If you are overweight, you are over... period.

Operating overweight is ignorant. Can you do it? sure... will you make it safely? probably... If something were to happen, is your insurance company going to 'head for ze hills' ? Absolutely.

Not sitting here saying I've never gone over myself, just saying there are huge stakes at play, and there's alot to think about.

Originally Posted by rbroome101
..... if not and you do forbid have an accident your insurance company has the right to decline the claim since you didnt follow correct wieght requirements in tagging it. Also can get ticket if you got stopped or had accident, just saying.

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Here's a thought, if you don't want people to call stupid, don't do something as stupid as knowingly overloading your truck and coming on to this forum and telling us. My opinion is you are a fool. You're knowingly putting your life, and others lives in danger. Slightly over??? That is not slightly over, and half tons are not a great idea with a fifth, unless properly equiped. People like you really irritate me. Max towing is inherently risky, your situation is very risky.
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It is going to come down to what you are content in doing. Over loaded is over loaded. There is not an insurance company out there that will insure that setup knowingly. All policies state that the vehicles being insured must be operated in a manner that they were intended for. Being over weight leaves you open to everything imaginable. Another thing to remember is that the towing vehicle policy covers the towed vehicle while in motion. If you get in a "your fault" accident your insurance company can void not only your truck coverage but also your trailers. The other party involved will likely clean your clock...especially if injuries are involved, way beyond your max coverages...that YOUR insurance will almost certainly deny. In the end the truck/trailer/plaintiff's vehicle and all injuries and awards will/could be on your dime. Paying for the extra weight as suggested does nothing for your liability...it stops you from receiving a ticket for not paying for the weight that your truck is licensed for. You have asked for opinions...so you are getting them...

I will add on to this by saying I know of all this first hand. My wife has worked as a subrogation attorney for over 20 years. The insurance companies pay them for this crap all day long.

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Originally Posted by isthatahemi

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Here's a thought, if you don't want people to call stupid, don't do something as stupid as knowingly overloading your truck and coming on to this forum and telling us. My opinion is you are a fool. You're knowingly putting your life, and others lives in danger. Slightly over??? That is not slightly over, and half tons are not a great idea with a fifth, unless properly equiped. People like you really irritate me. Max towing is inherently risky, your situation is very risky.
Amen. It could be any of us out on the road when something happens and you lose control. Insurance denying your claim is the least of your worries. Are you prepared to live with injury or death of someone else?
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Not too many hills between Albuquerque and Tucson, ...
In a car, no. But just leaving AlbaQ and climbing out of the Rio Grande valley will get your attention when towing overloaded. And there are lots of long grades on that road before you get to Tucson. Been there, done that. That's why I traded my 4.6L 2V SuperCrew for an EcoBoost SuperCrew. From Tucson to El Paso included several long pulls in western Arizona, and the 4.6L 2V wasn't quite enough truck for my 7,000-pound cargo trailer. The EcoBoost has a lot more power and torque (and tow rating), so I'm hoping it will be fine dragging 7,000 pounds from Midland to Phoenix thru Tucson.
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The guy asks questions and then leaves town knowing he is over weight.
Brilliant.
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Damn, you guys are harsh! Lets remember that he is under his GCWR and only about 5% over on his axle and vehicle weights. And he actually took the time to go to the scales and see exactly where he stands. If something happens on his trip - and hopefully it won't - I have a hard time believing an insurance company is going to collect all the pieces, put things back together and figure out that he had an extra couple hundered pounds on his rear axle. And, while it is certainly a little more dangerous than being 500lbs lighter, if he drives a litte more carefully than he would otherwise it probably keeps everyone else on the road with him just as safe. Bottom line is I would rather have him out there in a slightly overloaded brand new truck than a legally loaded pickup from the 80s or 90s!
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"Damn, you guys are harsh!"
Yes, and we should be.
"...only about 5% over on his axle and vehicle weights."
ONLY!!??! Over is over.
"it is certainly a little more dangerous..."
A little more dangerous?!!? WTF!!?! Are you serious??!!?
"...if he drives a little more carefully..."
If...
"I would rather have him out there..."
I wouldn't.


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