Topic Sponsor
2009 - 2014 Ford F150 General discussion on 2009 - 2014 Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Shady dealership service practice?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:11 AM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
MNMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 8 Posts

Default Shady dealership service practice?

Took my F150 in for warranty work. (IWE issues documented on my cellphone. that thread is here: https://www.f150forum.com/f38/iwe-noises-video-314625/)
Dealer had my truck for 5 days, and could not recreate the issue.
Now they want to charge me since they didn't find any issue.

They say Ford won't pay them for the time spent, so I must pay before they can release my truck back to me.

Is this common practice at dealership service departments?
Old 10-01-2015, 10:17 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Ricktwuhk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 14,966
Received 5,989 Likes on 3,553 Posts

Default

Looks like you explained it well in the other thread, and Ford Customer Service owes you an answer if you ask them, no?
Old 10-01-2015, 10:29 AM
  #3  
King Hater
 
Tothemax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: MONTANA
Posts: 6,973
Received 872 Likes on 653 Posts

Default

I'm sure you signed some paperwork when you dropped it off, What did it say?
Old 10-01-2015, 10:37 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Fireimp141's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 1,311
Received 210 Likes on 167 Posts

Default

I manage a shop. You can't charge someone a diagnostic fee if they failed to diagnose it...
Old 10-01-2015, 12:23 PM
  #5  
Is it Friday Yet?

iTrader: (1)
 
soaringfalcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 6,444
Received 580 Likes on 440 Posts

Default

Call Ford Customer Service and see what they say to do, it's an independent dealership, so they probably can't force them to do anything, but they might have some pull.


A Dodge dealership tried to pull that, on a 6 month old minivan with 7k on the ticker. I called BS and asked them to show me the paperwork where I agreed to the charge, they could not provide it as I checked "Call for estimate" and they never called. But they still refused to release the car.
I threatened to call the cops. Not that the cops could have done anything, since it was a civil matter, but it worked, they "ate" the bogus charge and released the car.

I called Dodge and complained, they could have cared less. I never frequented that dealership or bought another Dodge again. About six month later, that dealership closed and a year or so after that Dodge declared bankruptcy, so my boycott must have worked, lol.
The following users liked this post:
sigma pi (10-01-2015)
Old 10-01-2015, 01:01 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
130428's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 2,923
Received 708 Likes on 486 Posts
Default

Usually the SA will clearly say that "hey, we'll look at it, but if we can't find the noise / issue you're talking about, we'll charge you a diagnostic fee. If we find it, it's under warranty, no problem"

That's what they told me when I mentioned Sync was acting up last year. Since it was an intermittent glitch, I just told them not to bother since they had a 50/50 chance of not replicating it and I didn't feel like forking out $150 for nothing. Not saying it's right, but it's most likely the way it is.
Old 10-01-2015, 03:03 PM
  #7  
Member
Thread Starter
 
MNMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

I never did hear back from the Ford Customer Service Rep. He might be out of office.

I DID just get a call from the dealer. They will not be charging me for the troubleshooting, after all.

My point for this thread was to find out if this is common at dealers. I don’t use dealers much, because most of my vehicles are older. (My wifes 2012 Camry, and my 2010 truck are/were the exceptions)

If the dealer had pointed out that there would be a charge if they didn't find anything, I wouldn't have left my truck there. The IWE noise is intermittent, I knew there was less than a 50/50 chance they would hear it. And I could apply the $139.00 to actually replacing the vacuum lines, solenoid, and check valves.

I will check the paperwork I signed to see if it says anything about diagnostic work not covered by Ford warranty will be billed the owners.

Lesson learned.

Thanks for the replies.
After (if?) I get it fixed myself, I'll update the other thread.
The following users liked this post:
130428 (10-01-2015)
Old 10-01-2015, 03:07 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
TuxBlackFX4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 853
Received 89 Likes on 79 Posts

Default

They can't hold your car. They can send you to collections or small claims, but can't keep your car as collateral.
Old 10-01-2015, 03:26 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
sigma pi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,335
Received 328 Likes on 242 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by soaringfalcon

I called Dodge and complained, they could have cared less. I never frequented that dealership or bought another Dodge again. About six month later, that dealership closed and a year or so after that Dodge declared bankruptcy, so my boycott must have worked, lol.
You showed them!
The following users liked this post:
130428 (10-01-2015)
Old 10-01-2015, 05:48 PM
  #10  
Ford Customer Service


 
FordService's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dearborn, MI
Posts: 3,736
Received 805 Likes on 518 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Looks like you explained it well in the other thread, and Ford Customer Service owes you an answer if you ask them, no?
Originally Posted by MNMike
I never did hear back from the Ford Customer Service Rep. He might be out of office.

I DID just get a call from the dealer. They will not be charging me for the troubleshooting, after all.

My point for this thread was to find out if this is common at dealers. I don’t use dealers much, because most of my vehicles are older. (My wifes 2012 Camry, and my 2010 truck are/were the exceptions)

If the dealer had pointed out that there would be a charge if they didn't find anything, I wouldn't have left my truck there. The IWE noise is intermittent, I knew there was less than a 50/50 chance they would hear it. And I could apply the $139.00 to actually replacing the vacuum lines, solenoid, and check valves.

I will check the paperwork I signed to see if it says anything about diagnostic work not covered by Ford warranty will be billed the owners.

Lesson learned.

Thanks for the replies.
After (if?) I get it fixed myself, I'll update the other thread.
Hi MNMike,

I see you spoke to your regional customer service manager today about this concern. Please let me know if I can add any additional information to the case.

Chad


Quick Reply: Shady dealership service practice?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:40 AM.