TheBlack2011FX4

Can I see a picture of your cutoff line?

RedOctober5

I have had 35 watt 4300K Bi's in the headlights for a year now.. and I never get flashed for them..

Now the 35 watt 3000K Fogs I get flashed because the bulb is fully exposed.. so those never get ran in traffic..

Personally I think the bezel on the 09's and up provide a natural cut off damn near the same as halogens... I think the glare issue is inherent with the shape of the bezel.. I would have never of put them in my ranger for that simple fact... I see older Chevy's around here and the on coming glare is horrendous due to the shape of that bezel.. the new Tacos are a bad design for them as well... 55watt HIDS seem to compound the glare issue as well..

Projectors are a cool idea but I really don't see the advantage to them other than making the head lights look like a transformers eye ball....

I do know that the state troopers up here are cracking down on the super hi output 55watters for the main headlights If they see blue lights 5K or 6K and higher with a lot of glare guys are getting pulled over for them..

nate3420

I'm not spending time to take a picture to prove I'm right. You can believe me or not. But there is no problem with mine. You could put my truck side by side with my boss' Acura with his factory HIDs with projectors and you would think his are more blue and have more glare than mine. Again believe me or not. I don't care

sllydderrr

This red herring is so very old.
Where does this $1000.00 figure keep coming from?
You need $350.00 and some basic skills to have very high quality projector lighting from http://www.theretrofitsource.com.



You don't have to put projectors in, nobody would say you must. You can always keep your halogens in. They're really not that bad. If you're going to modify something why not make it better at the same time?

sllydderrr

Spoken like a true self-righteous guy. It was a legitimate question wasn't it? Who doesn't wan't to see pics of other folks set ups? Do you know for sure he was stirring up crap or is it that you feel the picture would fail to prove you right?

Your boss' lights very well may be more blue than yours. They do bluify as they age.

nate3420

I just don't feel like spending time out of my day to take a picture of my headlights to prove that people without retros are alright to use HIDs. Just people who do it continuously get bashed by the projector police

ymeski56

Well that's just great. Whose gonna pay for all this ""Projector Police" overtime, from waiting for you to post that Pic?

Stand down Projector Police... Stand down!!!

HCFX2013

+1 I spent $400 on mine with the upgraded 55w setup. Just for perspective, I'm a young student with a part time job, and I'm 75% done my projector project. So anyone that says its expensive to have someone else to do it, grab a dremel and a kitchen oven, and make a weekend project out of it. Why wouldn't you want to have a cool looking projector cutoff and awesome custom painted shrouds? Be honest guys, the only reason you run PnP HID's instead of true projectors is because you want to save money. There's no "projectors are useless" argument. That's grasping. It's been proven that projectors offer better light output, and where light is needed, rather than throwing light up into the trees. No, it's all about saving money and doing it the cheap way. That's really your only argument here.

Oh, and FWIW, it's impossibru for standard hid bulbs to have any true cutoff.

TheBlack2011FX4

I just wanted to see your cutoff, it was legit question... If nobody flashes you I wanted to see if there really was that much glare...

tractor man

I was running a 35w 6000k pnp kit in stock housings for a little while until I picked up a set of used retro's from a forum member. The cutoff wasn't too bad but there was a little unnecessary scattering of light. Honestly I never really noticed until seeing the difference projectors made. Much more focused light. Ill try to post pics of the cutoff with both setups. I'm sure that will rile up some more tension. Lol.