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Eco FTW
Last edited by Blown F-150; 05-06-2016 at 04:42 PM.
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So judging by the terms of engine ownership in this thread.....
I'm Canadian and own a tuned Ecoboost FX4.
My size is above average but I am getting older so instead of getting a Viagra prescription I can buy a GM 6.2 and supercharge it and I will have hard wood on demand in the foreseeable future.
So before I spend on the biggest testosterone truck I can afford please answer this question ;
Does driving a little 3.5 GTDI engine automatically deduct man card points and reduce penile efficiency, or going V8 simply boost the underperformers?
I'm Canadian and own a tuned Ecoboost FX4.
My size is above average but I am getting older so instead of getting a Viagra prescription I can buy a GM 6.2 and supercharge it and I will have hard wood on demand in the foreseeable future.
So before I spend on the biggest testosterone truck I can afford please answer this question ;
Does driving a little 3.5 GTDI engine automatically deduct man card points and reduce penile efficiency, or going V8 simply boost the underperformers?
#126
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So judging by the terms of engine ownership in this thread..... I'm Canadian and own a tuned Ecoboost FX4. My size is above average but I am getting older so instead of getting a Viagra prescription I can buy a GM 6.2 and supercharge it and I will have hard wood on demand in the foreseeable future. So before I spend on the biggest testosterone truck I can afford please answer this question ; Does driving a little 3.5 GTDI engine automatically deduct man card points and reduce penile efficiency, or going V8 simply boost the underperformers?
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Wonder what the percentage of turbos vs non-turbos that were made are still running? Granted, all sorts of cars were garbage back then - but I maintain that MOST non-turbos of the day are gone, while ALMOST ALL turbos of the day are gone.
Ecoboosts are the latest fad in turbo technology. We'll see in 10 years... I am confident the percentage will be as I predict, a lot higher percentage of Ecoboosts will be in the boneyard than NAs. Turbos are expensive, and the used ones will be pretty ratty in 10 years - and the folks who buy used trucks will pass on the ones with the "high-end" turbo because it will be all clapped out. Time will tell - but to me, time has told in the form of history. Boosted engines don't last. Not hating on the Ecoboost, I sure hope I'm wrong, but "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
As for your apples-to-oranges turbodiesel comparison... Diesels, as I'm sure you know, run very high CRs. The Power Stroke runs about 17.5:1, while the Coyote runs an impressive 11:1, give or take for each. Diesels are made to do that (it's the principle upon which diesels operate, that the sheer compression is so high that the fuel-air combusts from the heat generated during compression instead of needing a spark plug). To do this, diesels are made with really beefy bottom-ends to handle that - and at a cost to that added strength, they need heavier parts to handle it, which makes diesels HEAVY and LOW RPM. But ya knew that, I'm sure...
- My nav works, but the software just isn't as good.
- It's slower than my Garmin, occasionally telling me my location to turn about 10 yards after I should have turned - I have to keep my eyes on it, which isn't as safe.
- The "electronic backseat driver" commands interrupt the radio.
- The traffic and re-routing for a Garmin comes in via HDRadio frequencies, so I have no subscriptions. No need for Sirius.
- I can turn my Garmin to Portrait or landscape orientation (I do portrait so I can see further ahead).
- My Garmin has a lot of businesses in the HDRadio signals, which are nice and pretty up-to-date. No need for Sirius.
- The voice command features on the Garmin work GREAT.
- The touch screen on my Garmin is literally TOUCH screen.
- If something goes wrong with my Garmin, I can simply replace it with a newer one.
- I can take it out and use it in a rental car on business trips.
- Updates for my Garmin are free and easy to do (plug it in and it automatically runs the program on my computer to get the updates from their site).
- Saving favorites on a Garmin is much more user friendly compared to the Ford.
- Menus for traffic avoidances and other settings on the Garmin are a lot more logically arranged.
- Display on the Garmin is much clearer.
- Garmin has many different voices from which to choose.
Clearly you like your Ford Nav really well - and I hope I'm missing out on something, like if there's an alternative to the Sirius subscription or something else? I want mine to be as lovable as my Garmin, but I haven't had that magic moment yet. It beats paper maps and dead-reckoning, but falls WAY short of what Garmin offers. Apologies for going off-topic regarding the engines...
Ecoboosts are the latest fad in turbo technology. We'll see in 10 years... I am confident the percentage will be as I predict, a lot higher percentage of Ecoboosts will be in the boneyard than NAs. Turbos are expensive, and the used ones will be pretty ratty in 10 years - and the folks who buy used trucks will pass on the ones with the "high-end" turbo because it will be all clapped out. Time will tell - but to me, time has told in the form of history. Boosted engines don't last. Not hating on the Ecoboost, I sure hope I'm wrong, but "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
As for your apples-to-oranges turbodiesel comparison... Diesels, as I'm sure you know, run very high CRs. The Power Stroke runs about 17.5:1, while the Coyote runs an impressive 11:1, give or take for each. Diesels are made to do that (it's the principle upon which diesels operate, that the sheer compression is so high that the fuel-air combusts from the heat generated during compression instead of needing a spark plug). To do this, diesels are made with really beefy bottom-ends to handle that - and at a cost to that added strength, they need heavier parts to handle it, which makes diesels HEAVY and LOW RPM. But ya knew that, I'm sure...
- My nav works, but the software just isn't as good.
- It's slower than my Garmin, occasionally telling me my location to turn about 10 yards after I should have turned - I have to keep my eyes on it, which isn't as safe.
- The "electronic backseat driver" commands interrupt the radio.
- The traffic and re-routing for a Garmin comes in via HDRadio frequencies, so I have no subscriptions. No need for Sirius.
- I can turn my Garmin to Portrait or landscape orientation (I do portrait so I can see further ahead).
- My Garmin has a lot of businesses in the HDRadio signals, which are nice and pretty up-to-date. No need for Sirius.
- The voice command features on the Garmin work GREAT.
- The touch screen on my Garmin is literally TOUCH screen.
- If something goes wrong with my Garmin, I can simply replace it with a newer one.
- I can take it out and use it in a rental car on business trips.
- Updates for my Garmin are free and easy to do (plug it in and it automatically runs the program on my computer to get the updates from their site).
- Saving favorites on a Garmin is much more user friendly compared to the Ford.
- Menus for traffic avoidances and other settings on the Garmin are a lot more logically arranged.
- Display on the Garmin is much clearer.
- Garmin has many different voices from which to choose.
Clearly you like your Ford Nav really well - and I hope I'm missing out on something, like if there's an alternative to the Sirius subscription or something else? I want mine to be as lovable as my Garmin, but I haven't had that magic moment yet. It beats paper maps and dead-reckoning, but falls WAY short of what Garmin offers. Apologies for going off-topic regarding the engines...