jjm1024

After all the comparisons, thought and research I'm going ion a different direction. BFGoodrich all terrain T/A KO. The reason being is I can get a killer deal locally on them. Out the door I'm looking at $845 in a 275/70/18! Or about $150 cheaper then the terra grappler and only $20 total more then the bfg rugged terrains. Getting them installed next week, will post back after install.

smurfs_of_war

I run them- happy with them except on ice, but overall great tire. Quiet and sturdy.

SuperCruzin

I sat here just now reading this thread for the first time... considering everything you were looking for and the whole time thinking I was going to suggest the BFG AT/KO. Here I get to page 4 and thats the direction you out of the blue decided on. Effectively raining on my parade.

LOL

Either way, glad you decided on this tire. I ran these on my old truck and they were fantastic in the snow and ice. I am from Erie, PA and we get all the same lake effect crap you guys do, so they saw their fair share of snow. When they wore down to around 5/32nds I replaced them for a set of NEW Long Trail T/As... When the snow flew the following winter, I quickly realized my NEW tires had less snow and ice traction than my heavily worn BFG ATs had. Needless to say, I was not thrilled.

When tire shopping for a tire that is good in the white, always look for this symbol on the tire:



...a tire has to earn that symbol. You will see many other symbols and pictures and crap that are there to sell you a tire, but the one I posted above is the one that matters. Oddly enough, the size in question does not have this designation... but it is the same design and has the same siping so I am confident it will work fine.

Most BFG AT/KOs & Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armors carry this symbol. Speaking of... the Silent Armor is another good tire. (Though I prefer BFG)


What pressure do you run in them? Pressure makes a difference, you might need to air them down (or up) a bit. If you are running empty with the pressure specified on the door tag, its likely a bit much. Same goes for running over sized tires.

jjm1024

Sorry to rain on your parade! Lol. Took me a while but I got there.

The more I looked around the more I saw the T/A KO fit my needs and had been compared to the terra all over the place. Ultimately the lesser price, long tread life, snow rating (even though this particular size isn't snow flake rated the pattern, sipping, etc ifs the same), and good off-road looks got me to this tire.

A note about the snow flake symbol. I read somewhere online that BFGoodrich uses a stiffer rubber compound on the load e tires when compared to the load d which is why most of the load e don't receive the snowflake. Not sure if it is true, but it seems logical to me.

smurfs_of_war

I run them slightly below during the winter months here to give them a little more flex on the ice (28-30 PSI). I have been happy with them as an all around performer- it's just the ice I find a little lacking is all. Seems worse the colder it gets. When the mercury goes below -30, they turn into hockey pucks but that's somewhat expected. And thick mud... they gum up quick. As a weekend warrior mild offroad tire on a DD- I can't think of a better tire though, and you can't have EVERYTHING in a tire- wouldn't that be nice? These have been quiet, aggressive enough, and a great wear life on all of the vehicles I have run them on. It'll take a pretty good tire to sway me from purchasing another set.

That being said, I may try a set of Duratracs next go round. I have been hearing some really great reviews both on this forum and elsewhere.

SuperCruzin

That makes sense.

I stopped reading at this point and immediately looked to see where you were from. ...then looked at a map to see exactly where that was. LOL

I think it is safe to say your winters are substantially colder than mine... and after looking at the map again, I think the fact they do fairly well even for you WAYYY up there says a lot for the tire. I would be interested to hear what you say about the duratracs if you get a set.

jjm1024

I had the Duratracs on my old truck ('05 Lifted Quadcab Dakota 4x4) and those tires were beasts! I sold the truck before I saw how many miles I would get out of them, but at 27,000+ they were still in pristine condition. I would say they would've hit 50,000 easy. They went through EVERYTHING! I wasn't easy on that truck, and even with two open diffs I got through stuff I never thought possible in that little truck. . .I credit the tires. They were the best winter tire I ever had and went the studded route prior so that is saying something. The only downside, and it is minor, is the humm. For such an aggressive tire it really is pretty quiet, but my wife HATED it. So, my search for a tire has moved to something more mild to appease the wife and because of the simple fact that I do not plan on beating my new truck like I did my old.

So two thumbs way up for the Duratracs. . . They just don't fit what I need at this time.

smurfs_of_war

Yeah- it can get chilly here so you're right- any tire that performs as well as these bfg's up here is definitely deserving a thumbs up

When I put on the duratracs I'll try to remember to update.

ClaySlayer

Your new tires are 3.44% bigger (33/31.9) so multiply the displayed miles traveled, MPG calculation, etc. by 1.0344 and that'll give you the corrected number...easy enough huh?

ford4261

Just to toss some info into the mix, I ran nitto Terra grapplers on my '04 super duty and they were great tires, except in the snow. I'm from central Cali so my snow trips were very limited however. They were great daily driver tires and good under a load. I got around 45,000 miles out of them, not bad I guess. The last set of tires I had were mickey Thompson Baja ATZ; these were AWESOME tires. Sand, mud, rain, summer. Great all around tire.