stock speaker replacement recommendations
#21
Senior Member
Well, you are getting into a much more serious setup than the OP asked about. Yes, you should match up pretty close. I don't have a bunch of product specs in my head for car audio like I would for home. But, amps can get to some pretty crazy levels if you're willing to pay for it. And if you mistakenly hook up a great amp at .5 ohm to a midrange sub that is really only specced to 2 or 4, yeah, blowing it is possible. I've got a coworker that keeps trying to get to competition level on a tiny budget. He's had to re-cone several subs.
#22
American member
I did four Infinity Reference speakers in my doors and a Kicker Hideaway sub behind the LR pass. seat, very happy. I'm a long time Crutchfield customer and bought the Infinitys from them, but a word of caution regarding the supplied wiring adapters. My speakers started dropping out one by one and I swore it was the radio getting ready to take a dump. Finally discovered that the adapters were intermittently connected electrically, even though they were solidly snapped together. My solution was to go back and solder all the wires to the speakers, no more adapters. No more problems.
As in your case, the supplied adapters were apparently just loose enough to mess with the connection. I should've done what you did and soldered them.
Instead I remember reading were again a little Dielectric grease solved it.
For the most part it did. The rear passenger is sounding a little funky again...
So once the weather gets a bit better I'm taking all the doors apart and doing it right this time.
I absolutely do not regret buying the Reference series. When the connection is proper and combined with the Kicker sub, it's a pretty damn good sounding stereo. Crisp highs and tight bass (hooked to the factory sub wires).
I do keep thinking about upgrading the tweeters and the center speaker. I don't think upgrading them would change it enough for me to hear the difference, but that itch, that it could sound even a little better is always there...
Also, the only real thing that I can bitch about with my 14, is that I wish the grills would simply pop off, or at least the fronts like my 2005 did.
It's not a hard task, just a pain in the @55 is all.
Last edited by Masi1926; 04-19-2017 at 09:55 AM.
#23
I've been thinking about changing the pillar tweeters, waiting for someone to offer a suggestion that will make a noticeable improvement. My Hideaway sub won't crack window glass, but it did fill in the bass that was missing. Like you, I'm satisfied with my system. And I started with the standard setup, non-Sony.
If you decide to solder the door speakers, get an extra person to help hold the speakers while you solder. I'd be embarrassed to post a picture of the shadetree solution I came up with, to do the job (clamps), but I did what I did out of necessity. The factory harness wires are not that long, with the connectors removed, and holding the speaker, solder gun, solder roll, etc. was a pain. Guess I could have just added a short piece of wire to bridge the distance, but I don't like doing that. Like you, I wish the grills popped off, taking the door panels off was more time-consuming than anything else. But, no problems since I did the soldering, because I know the wires are well connected!
If you decide to solder the door speakers, get an extra person to help hold the speakers while you solder. I'd be embarrassed to post a picture of the shadetree solution I came up with, to do the job (clamps), but I did what I did out of necessity. The factory harness wires are not that long, with the connectors removed, and holding the speaker, solder gun, solder roll, etc. was a pain. Guess I could have just added a short piece of wire to bridge the distance, but I don't like doing that. Like you, I wish the grills popped off, taking the door panels off was more time-consuming than anything else. But, no problems since I did the soldering, because I know the wires are well connected!
#25
Well, you are getting into a much more serious setup than the OP asked about. Yes, you should match up pretty close. I don't have a bunch of product specs in my head for car audio like I would for home. But, amps can get to some pretty crazy levels if you're willing to pay for it. And if you mistakenly hook up a great amp at .5 ohm to a midrange sub that is really only specced to 2 or 4, yeah, blowing it is possible. I've got a coworker that keeps trying to get to competition level on a tiny budget. He's had to re-cone several subs.
#26
Senior Member
Another thing i wanted to point out, in my old truck I replaced my front door speakers and the sound was better so later I replaced the rear door speakers. I could not hear the difference in sound quality like what replacing the fronts did. Replacing front speakers were a night and day difference. So, with my current truck I just chose to do the fronts and leave the factory rear speakers
#27
#28
American member
I've been thinking about changing the pillar tweeters, waiting for someone to offer a suggestion that will make a noticeable improvement. My Hideaway sub won't crack window glass, but it did fill in the bass that was missing. Like you, I'm satisfied with my system. And I started with the standard setup, non-Sony.
If you decide to solder the door speakers, get an extra person to help hold the speakers while you solder. I'd be embarrassed to post a picture of the shadetree solution I came up with, to do the job (clamps), but I did what I did out of necessity. The factory harness wires are not that long, with the connectors removed, and holding the speaker, solder gun, solder roll, etc. was a pain. Guess I could have just added a short piece of wire to bridge the distance, but I don't like doing that. Like you, I wish the grills popped off, taking the door panels off was more time-consuming than anything else. But, no problems since I did the soldering, because I know the wires are well connected!
If you decide to solder the door speakers, get an extra person to help hold the speakers while you solder. I'd be embarrassed to post a picture of the shadetree solution I came up with, to do the job (clamps), but I did what I did out of necessity. The factory harness wires are not that long, with the connectors removed, and holding the speaker, solder gun, solder roll, etc. was a pain. Guess I could have just added a short piece of wire to bridge the distance, but I don't like doing that. Like you, I wish the grills popped off, taking the door panels off was more time-consuming than anything else. But, no problems since I did the soldering, because I know the wires are well connected!
The price should be minimal, so I'm thinking all I have to lose is an hour or so.
Again... it'll take longer to pop off the plastic.
The center speaker puts out quite a bit of sound, so for well under $200, for all 3 speakers, I may just scratch that itch...
Also in hindsight, I probably didn't need to buy the rear door speakers.
The Sony's are already polypropylene speakers. I'm not sure how much I improved the back doors..
#29
Senior Member
Just to compare, I have 4 separate amps powering my 9 speakers at home ( two monos, one stereo, one 5-channel). The sub has a built-in amp separate. People think I'm crazy, but mine sounds like the local Atmos theater. And can play at the same volume without distortion. The shopping I did for this setup was not remotely the same as what I've recommended to other people that just want to add some speakers to their tv. I've recommended systems where the entire thing cost 1/3 of what my sub cost me USED. (and I'm not including the upgrades I did to the sub)
#30
Keep in mind, I was originally talking to someone just trying to replace door speakers, not adding to the factory amp. His amp is not ever going to have a problem matching to speakers. I didn't realize what you were asking was different at first, that's why I typed up the whole volume calculation. You are going to a different level, where you will have to pay attention to max speaker ratings with those higher powered amps. Sorry for the confusion. I agree with what you have read elsewhere. Speakers can probably handle a bit more than their rating, but I wouldn't push too much. Oh, and subs aren't technologically different than other speakers, except they generally can handle more power because of the nature of lower frequencies. So, the numbers are going to look different.
Just to compare, I have 4 separate amps powering my 9 speakers at home ( two monos, one stereo, one 5-channel). The sub has a built-in amp separate. People think I'm crazy, but mine sounds like the local Atmos theater. And can play at the same volume without distortion. The shopping I did for this setup was not remotely the same as what I've recommended to other people that just want to add some speakers to their tv. I've recommended systems where the entire thing cost 1/3 of what my sub cost me USED. (and I'm not including the upgrades I did to the sub)
Just to compare, I have 4 separate amps powering my 9 speakers at home ( two monos, one stereo, one 5-channel). The sub has a built-in amp separate. People think I'm crazy, but mine sounds like the local Atmos theater. And can play at the same volume without distortion. The shopping I did for this setup was not remotely the same as what I've recommended to other people that just want to add some speakers to their tv. I've recommended systems where the entire thing cost 1/3 of what my sub cost me USED. (and I'm not including the upgrades I did to the sub)