jedeckert1984

Bigger leaf springs= greater arc than stock. It may solve wheel hop but it doesn't solve axle wrap. I know people with Deavers that still have traction bars because they have axle wrap. You clearly misinterpreted my simple sentence.

jonbar87

I don't know how leafs with a greater arc causes more axle wrap, but ok. Whatever makes you feel better.

SgtAxe

Ok you two. I've had enough! Don't make me come back there. Now that I have your attention...

Jonbar87, you come off rude, arrogant, and overly opinionated. But you're correct in your information regarding leafs vs blocks.

Jed. You're no Jedi. Deaver springs with axle wrap? If they were installed on lift blocks, maybe. Hardly unlikely if mounted directly to the tube. You are not wrapping a set of lifted leaf packs. Axle wrap happens when torque is placed on the rear and the weaker rate spring flexes at the end of the perch it sits on. If left natural, on top of the axle, your chances are minimal. When you elevate the center section of the leaf pack by using a block, you're giving the leaf spring that much more room to flex.

I've seen both. Both have pros and cons. If you want to retain factory ride quality in the rear and aren't harsh on the pedal, blocks might work for you. I'd add traction bars if you're mostly on pavement. Bars will affect articulation, so if you're a true wheeler, steer clear. Lifted leaf packs are ultimately the superior choice. Strength also means a slightly stiffer rear suspension. Depends on whose springs your buying. With all that said...GO WITH THE SETUP THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU! Just because Jonboy hates it doesn't mean it's wrong for you.

In summary...you both need to go into timeout until you're ready to play nice.

jonbar87

Settle down there internet tough guy. I know I'm right, you don't have to tell me that. Maybe people shouldn't be so stupid and I won't be rude. Besides, I wasn't even rude until others decided to get sarcastic. I get extremely tired of people who don't know what they're talking about acting like they do and then spreading misinformation. The purpose of a forum is to HELP people, not deceive them by idiots posting incorrect info.

jedeckert1984

ha, you sound like a smug bastard. You were rude and sarcastic before anyone was even sarcastic. You have this hard on for Skyjacker and their "glorious" leaf springs when there is a reason they are cheaper than say Atlas or Deaver.
Just because YOU hate lift blocks doesn't mean they work fine for others. I know people that have ran both and have wheeled with both and have had no problems. So please, take the stick out of your *** and grasp the concept that because you hate them doesn't mean everyone else does.

jonbar87

I really don't care what everyone else likes/dislikes to be honest. I'm just here stating facts. And smug or not, I'm a correct "bastard", and that's all that counts. Blocks work. But they're inferior and cause a lot of problems that take more money to correct later down the road, which is why I'm trying to save people the hardache. I used to run blocks. I know how they work. Because they cause axle wrap, they eat u-joints. I swear we changed 4 or 5 u-joints over the course of ten years or so cause one of our F-150s had tall blocks and axle-wrapped. They suck. Why not just do it right the first time? What a brilliant idea; do it right and then you'll never have to fix u-joints or buy traction bars. Why is everyone so opposed to that? Although I'm sure if you're pickup is a pavement queen and don't ever use it to tow or take it off road, blocks will be fine.

Also, I'm not saying other companies don't make better leaf springs; I'm talking lift KITS as a WHOLE, Skyjacker is the only one to offer full leaf packs with their lift KIT. If another company made a decent lift KIT with leafs, I'd have a hard on for them as well. Just so happens nobody else does.

IrishRed

I'll say this, I have the 6" Rancho with rear lift blocks. I probably wheel mine a couple of times a week. I have 200 acres and an additional 800 that border me that I offroad over constantly. I'm not talking state park trails neither.

I have yet to get in a situation where I said to myself, "Those damn blocks screwed me!!"

Does that mean blocks are the greatest thing since sliced bread? Hardly!

But, to act like a kit that has them is junk/inferior, is not a fair assessment neither.

The leaf spring route has pros & cons, just like blocks and everything else auto related. If one setup was perfect, everyone would have it & what a boring world it would be.

Know what your wants, needs, & expectations are and then pick your poison.

Times are hard when we have things like this to argue over. Lol

Happy Truckin' Fellas!

SgtAxe

Internet tough guy? What did I say that made me come off as trying to be tough? I was trying to be comical and lighten the mood that you negatively set forth. As far as giving you credit for having some correct info...I was more trying to be nice than anything. Problem is, your attitude clouds what positive information that you could be sharing. I hope you take the advice of fellow forum members here and see a proctologist to have that stick removed from your *****. And while he's in there, maybe he can dislodge your cranium. See? Look at what you made me do. Now I feel negative. And your all wrong. Leafs suck. Blocks suck. If you don't do what I do and stack cinder blocks under your axels strapped down by a ratchet strap, you're wrong. And dumb. Rant over.

Again...heavily laced with sarcasm and failed attempts at humor.

jonbar87

Didn't know you were trying to be comical. I apologize.

SgtAxe

No need to apologize. In my line of work, trash talk and ball breaking are part of our everyday. So not everyone gets that I may be joking. No hard feelings, no butthurt. Back to truck talk. I removed the cinder blocks. Rode terribly.