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Old 07-05-2014, 04:15 AM
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I do have one question. Ordered my kit with Xb 55watt 5k. Should I worry about any damage to housing or shroud over time with these? Should I change to a 35w?
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When you say
They don't have nearly as much color flicker at the cutoff
,do you mean the hard blue line?
I have the OscramSVS 4300 that I switched out with a pair of cheapos because that blue cutoff line drove me nuts and the cheapos are much less annoying.
Granted they are not as bright as the SVS but they also dont have that hard blue line color flicker
I woud like to get the output of the svs but without the hard blue color flicker line
By your description it sounds like the nightbreakers would be my best best?

Originally Posted by iRub1Out
Page turned; I got a pair of Nightbreakers from TRS and hooked them up, if anyone has considered these - they are pretty impressive if you like the 4200-4300k color.

They don't have nearly as much color flicker at the cutoff, which kinda sucks, but they're brighter than the 5000k morimoto bulbs I had been running.

I will be ordering a pair of CBI to compare, and sometime down the road I'll have to see how it looks with the C1s too.
Old 07-05-2014, 07:57 AM
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Why did the color flicker drive you nuts? And yes that's the hard blue line also called the cutoff.
The Nightbreakers are amazing bulbs.
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Originally Posted by MCDavis
Why did the color flicker drive you nuts? And yes that's the hard blue line also called the cutoff.
The Nightbreakers are amazing bulbs.
Hit a bump in the road and the suspension absorbs it and you can see the cutoff line (a very defined blue line)floating which is causeing The flickering on anything reflective (car's milemarkers ,signs etc) .People in front of me said they thought it was a cop inback of them. I'm pretty sure if I stiffened up the suspension it would stop the floating cutoff. Since I switched to the chepo lights that BLUE cutoff line is much better ,but with a loss of output(which I can live with).But if the nightbreakers give better output without the flicker as
Ruboneout describes I'll be giveing those a shot.
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Originally Posted by fcancer
Hit a bump in the road and the suspension absorbs it and you can see the cutoff line (a very defined blue line)floating which is causeing The flickering on anything reflective (car's milemarkers ,signs etc) .People in front of me said they thought it was a cop inback of them. I'm pretty sure if I stiffened up the suspension it would stop the floating cutoff. Since I switched to the chepo lights that BLUE cutoff line is much better ,but with a loss of output(which I can live with).But if the nightbreakers give better output without the flicker as Ruboneout describes I'll be giveing those a shot.
That's how the cutoff works and you will have the cutoff no matter what you do. The only thing that may change is the color flicker of the cutoff.

You may try aiming them down if they are bothering people.

I love my color flicker and I have a blueish/purple color flicker at the cutoff and love it. It's very slight and the rest is amazing light output.
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Yes I know thats how the cutoff works,and that will always be there .
Unlike yourself,,,what I dont like ,is the color flicker,which has changed with a cheaper bulb.
Ruboneout stated that the nightbreakers did not have the colorflicker,Which is why I posted in the first place


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That's how the cutoff works and you will have the cutoff no matter what you do. The only thing that may change is the color flicker of the cutoff.

You may try aiming them down if they are bothering people.

I love my color flicker and I have a blueish/purple color flicker at the cutoff and love it. It's very slight and the rest is amazing light output.

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Old 07-05-2014, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fcancer
Yes I know thats how the cutoff works,and that will always be there .
Unlike yourself,,,what I dont like ,is the color flicker,which has changed with a cheaper bulb.
Ruboneout stated that the nightbreakers did not have the colorflicker,Which is why I posted in the first place
There is *some* color flicker. There's a little color in the cutoff, but its 90% less than what I had with 6000k D2S bulbs and probably 70% less than what I had with 5000k bulbs.

The thickness of the cutoff is mostly dependent on the shield but with these 4200 nightbreakers the blue line is very small but still noticeable.

My observation:

(All on 35W Morimoto ballasts and FX-R)

6000k Morimoto: thick and beautiful Deep blue and purple cutoff, very obvious and very noticeable.

5000k Morimoto: Still a thick and colorful blue/purple cutoff with vibrant flickers on every surface, thinner than 6000k.

4200k Nightbreakers: Thinner, yet vibrant blue cutoff, with light color flicker - but FAR less than 5000k - there's hues of red/yellow at close range.

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I'm hearing the nightbreakers are just rebranded SVS?
I have the morimoto 5five,fxr,osram svs
I'm definitely liking the sound of a thinner blue line
I'll do a little more research on the nightbreakers but it sounds like I'll be calling TRS monday
Thanks
Originally Posted by iRub1Out
There is *some* color flicker. There's a little color in the cutoff, but its 90% less than what I had with 6000k D2S bulbs and probably 70% less than what I had with 5000k bulbs.

The thickness of the cutoff is mostly dependent on the shield but with these 4200 nightbreakers the blue line is very small but still noticeable.

My observation:

(All on 35W Morimoto ballasts and FX-R)

6000k Morimoto: thick and beautiful Deep blue and purple cutoff, very obvious and very noticeable.

5000k Morimoto: Still a thick and colorful blue/purple cutoff with vibrant flickers on every surface, thinner than 6000k.

4200k Nightbreakers: Thinner, yet vibrant blue cutoff, with night flicker - but FAR less than 5000k - there's hues of red/yellow at close range.
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That's correct. Nightbreakers are just the "new" version of the SVS, same thing but with a snazzy new name.
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Welp, that coupon code was the kick in the pants I needed to get this retrofit going. I have had a spare set of lights and a oracle halo kit sitting here for a month or two trying to convince myself to spend even more money.
Now to decide how I am going to paint them.

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