Remote start and heat/ac settings
03-09-2018, 09:58 PM
#21
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Thanks golfer. I see that above. The issue I have is the heat is on when I shut it off. floor and windshield at 75 degrees. Then the next morning I remote start it. Its all warm inside all is good but when i put my key and and go to leave the heat controls are off... I have to turn them back on and they do to "my temp"
If so , what are the settings displayed in the message center for the remote start?
03-13-2018, 03:24 PM
#22
Sorry golfer just saw this I will check tonight but yes it is the factory remote start. I have been watching it and here is the thing. When I shut it off I have the heat on at 75 with it on floor and windshield. When I use the remote start and get in and use my key before it shuts off then all is good the heat stays on. Its when the timer runs out and the truck shuts off that I have to start it with the key that nothing is on I have to turn it all on again.
Almost like it is going from the last time it was running no lights are on so it might be fooling the system that on a key start it goes back to the last setting which could be read as "off""?
Almost like it is going from the last time it was running no lights are on so it might be fooling the system that on a key start it goes back to the last setting which could be read as "off""?
03-13-2018, 03:47 PM
#23
@golfer while I have only had my 2013 for a month, I do believe my heated seats came on when it was in the 40's outside. I remember them being warm. it has not been hot enough here to test cooling.
03-25-2018, 11:23 AM
#25
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From what I recall reading some time ago , this was done because of complaints and were changed from 32 degrees upward to the 40+ range. I just haven't found the exact changes.
03-25-2018, 12:01 PM
#26
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Sorry golfer just saw this I will check tonight but yes it is the factory remote start. I have been watching it and here is the thing. When I shut it off I have the heat on at 75 with it on floor and windshield. When I use the remote start and get in and use my key before it shuts off then all is good the heat stays on. Its when the timer runs out and the truck shuts off that I have to start it with the key that nothing is on I have to turn it all on again.
Almost like it is going from the last time it was running no lights are on so it might be fooling the system that on a key start it goes back to the last setting which could be read as "off""?
Almost like it is going from the last time it was running no lights are on so it might be fooling the system that on a key start it goes back to the last setting which could be read as "off""?
When the remote start is initialized the climate control seems to function properly. As long as you enter the vehicle before the *time out* and turn the key to *run* everything is fine.
Your concern is when the *time out* is completed and you key start the truck manually the climate control is off and you have to turn it on manually.
I have the manual climate control system in my truck and not familiar with the operating characteristics of the Auto climate system , unfortunately can't offer anything further.
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10-16-2018, 08:31 AM
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The climate control system will condition the cabin temperature during
remote start based on the outside temperature. Engine idle may increase
to help with adjusting the cabin temperature.
***** Note: No climate control adjustments will be recognized during remote
start operation and none of the climate function indicators will be
illuminated while the vehicle is in remote start. Once the ignition is
cycled to the on position, the climate control system will return to the
previous settings (last ignition-on cycle) and adjustments can be made
normally. If the previous setting was off, the climate control system will
turn off.
If you previously had any of the following activated: heated seats (if
equipped), cooled seats (if equipped), heated mirrors (if equipped), or
rear defrost, they will not return to their previous settings (on) when the
ignition is turned on and will need to be re-activated if desired.
Manual climate control
For hot weather conditions:
• The climate control system will be set to MAX A/C.
For cold weather conditions:
• The climate control system will be set to provide maximum heating
in (floor/defrost) mode.
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be activated.
For moderate weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be heated, cooled or off, based upon the
previous operating state (last ignition-on cycle).
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be deactivated.
Automatic climate control
For hot weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be cooled to 72°F (22°C).
• The cooled seats (if equipped and if the feature is selected to AUTO
in the message center) will be set to high.
For cold weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be heated to 72°F (22°C).
• The heated seats (if equipped and if the feature is selected to AUTO
in the message center) will be set to high.
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be activated.
For moderate weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be heated, cooled, or off, based upon the
previous operating state (last ignition-on cycle).
• Heated/cooled seats (if equipped) will be deactivated.
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be deactivated.
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A while back I came across more detailed information as to the temperature ranges for Cold - Hot - Moderate operational characteristics for the climate control during remote start. Frankly, I'm not sure why Ford didn't include this in the owner's manual for clarification.....*** I haven't been able to confirm , but Ford may have changed the ambient temperature values since this information was available.***
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For cold ambient air temperatures (below 32° F (0° C)):
• the airflow mode is set to FLOOR/DEFROST.
• the temperature is set to full HOT.
• the blower speed is set to HIGH.
• the air inlet mode is set to fresh air.
• the auxiliary electric heater is enabled if needed (diesel only).
**** For moderate ambient air temperatures (between 32° F (0° C) and 80° F (27° C)):
• the airflow mode is set to the last user setting.
• the temperature is set to the last user setting.
• the blower speed is set to the last user setting.
• the air inlet mode is set to the last user setting.
• the auxiliary electric heater is enabled if needed (diesel only).
For hot ambient air temperatures (above 80° F (27° C)):
• the airflow mode is set to MAX A/C.
• the temperature is set to full COOL.
• the blower speed is set to HIGH.
• the air inlet mode is set to RECIRC.
• the auxiliary electric heater is not enabled (diesel only).
Seats
When the vehicle is started using the remote start feature, the driver/passenger climate controlled seat activates in full heat mode when the outside temperature is less than 32° F (0° C)and full cool mode when outside temperature is greater than 80° F (27° C).
Mirrors
When the vehicle is started using the remote start feature and the outside temperature is less than 32° F (0° C), the heated mirrors will be activated.
Rear Defroster
When the vehicle is started using the remote start feature and the outside temperature isless than 32° F (0° C), the rear defroster will be activated.
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remote start based on the outside temperature. Engine idle may increase
to help with adjusting the cabin temperature.
***** Note: No climate control adjustments will be recognized during remote
start operation and none of the climate function indicators will be
illuminated while the vehicle is in remote start. Once the ignition is
cycled to the on position, the climate control system will return to the
previous settings (last ignition-on cycle) and adjustments can be made
normally. If the previous setting was off, the climate control system will
turn off.
If you previously had any of the following activated: heated seats (if
equipped), cooled seats (if equipped), heated mirrors (if equipped), or
rear defrost, they will not return to their previous settings (on) when the
ignition is turned on and will need to be re-activated if desired.
Manual climate control
For hot weather conditions:
• The climate control system will be set to MAX A/C.
For cold weather conditions:
• The climate control system will be set to provide maximum heating
in (floor/defrost) mode.
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be activated.
For moderate weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be heated, cooled or off, based upon the
previous operating state (last ignition-on cycle).
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be deactivated.
Automatic climate control
For hot weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be cooled to 72°F (22°C).
• The cooled seats (if equipped and if the feature is selected to AUTO
in the message center) will be set to high.
For cold weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be heated to 72°F (22°C).
• The heated seats (if equipped and if the feature is selected to AUTO
in the message center) will be set to high.
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be activated.
For moderate weather conditions:
• The interior cabin will be heated, cooled, or off, based upon the
previous operating state (last ignition-on cycle).
• Heated/cooled seats (if equipped) will be deactivated.
• Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be deactivated.
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A while back I came across more detailed information as to the temperature ranges for Cold - Hot - Moderate operational characteristics for the climate control during remote start. Frankly, I'm not sure why Ford didn't include this in the owner's manual for clarification.....*** I haven't been able to confirm , but Ford may have changed the ambient temperature values since this information was available.***
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For cold ambient air temperatures (below 32° F (0° C)):
• the airflow mode is set to FLOOR/DEFROST.
• the temperature is set to full HOT.
• the blower speed is set to HIGH.
• the air inlet mode is set to fresh air.
• the auxiliary electric heater is enabled if needed (diesel only).
**** For moderate ambient air temperatures (between 32° F (0° C) and 80° F (27° C)):
• the airflow mode is set to the last user setting.
• the temperature is set to the last user setting.
• the blower speed is set to the last user setting.
• the air inlet mode is set to the last user setting.
• the auxiliary electric heater is enabled if needed (diesel only).
For hot ambient air temperatures (above 80° F (27° C)):
• the airflow mode is set to MAX A/C.
• the temperature is set to full COOL.
• the blower speed is set to HIGH.
• the air inlet mode is set to RECIRC.
• the auxiliary electric heater is not enabled (diesel only).
Seats
When the vehicle is started using the remote start feature, the driver/passenger climate controlled seat activates in full heat mode when the outside temperature is less than 32° F (0° C)and full cool mode when outside temperature is greater than 80° F (27° C).
Mirrors
When the vehicle is started using the remote start feature and the outside temperature is less than 32° F (0° C), the heated mirrors will be activated.
Rear Defroster
When the vehicle is started using the remote start feature and the outside temperature isless than 32° F (0° C), the rear defroster will be activated.
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10-21-2018, 08:34 PM
#29
Senior Member
I'm not aware of being able to change the temperature thresholds , perhaps that's something that can be done through forscan?
Since the heat/cool function in remote start is based on the outside ambient air temperature , if your temp sensor gives an erroneous reading ( say higher than should be ) then you would fall into the *moderate range*. In which case in you wouldn't have heat.
Do you have manual or automatic climate control?
Since the heat/cool function in remote start is based on the outside ambient air temperature , if your temp sensor gives an erroneous reading ( say higher than should be ) then you would fall into the *moderate range*. In which case in you wouldn't have heat.
Do you have manual or automatic climate control?
10-22-2018, 07:13 AM
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I have it set to automatic right now, but I have noticed the last couple of mornings when I start it up, the heater and defroster don't come on until after I put the key in to start driving, it was 34, so the last set should have kicked on, which was heater and defrost, right?