Recall Alert: Ford F-150 EcoBoost Engine Under Investigation for Losing Power During
05-31-2013, 01:24 PM
#41
Senior Member
In response to those who are dismissing this became "...only 95 reports to the NHTSA...", or, because they never had the problem, keep in mind:
1 Most people would never think to file a complaint to the NHTSA.
2. Of those who are advised to file a complaint, or who think of possibly filing a complaint - again, I would venture to guess that most of THOSE people won't or haven't gone through the trouble. I almost didn't - but I felt pretty strongly about the safety issue.
3. How many fatal accidents have there been where the driver is unable to make a complaint or testify to the seriousness of this problem? I have heard plenty people experience the same issue as me on this forum: driving down highway in wet weather, go to pass a slower vehicle and nearly get smashed by a semi truck. MAJOR pucker factor and I know most who survived that feel LUCKY; surely there are those who were involved in wrecks - some of which were fatal.
4. I can't tell you how many "average Joe's" I talk to in parking lots, gas stations, dealerships, etc - who also have EcoBoost F-150's that, when I ask them if they ever had a massive power loss / fall on your face experience, they say "As a matter of fact, yes" and went to the dealer who blew them off, or didn't do anything about it hoping it was a rare fluke. By my own estimation, I'd say 8 out of 10 EcoBoost owners I've talked to have had this happen. And I'd estimate about 200 different owners I've spoken with. NONE of them, except me, has had the CAC replacement. The fixes a few dealers have tried is mind blowing!
So, some of you can say its a non-issue, your truck is fine, etc - and I hope you never experience the issue ever. Maybe you won't. But, if - or I'll say WHEN the day comes and it does happen - I hope you recover safely and are able to pull off the side of the road without causing an accident.
To anyone who has had this happen, please, file those reports. Takes 5 minutes online.
The CAC swap needs to be a safety recall.
1 Most people would never think to file a complaint to the NHTSA.
2. Of those who are advised to file a complaint, or who think of possibly filing a complaint - again, I would venture to guess that most of THOSE people won't or haven't gone through the trouble. I almost didn't - but I felt pretty strongly about the safety issue.
3. How many fatal accidents have there been where the driver is unable to make a complaint or testify to the seriousness of this problem? I have heard plenty people experience the same issue as me on this forum: driving down highway in wet weather, go to pass a slower vehicle and nearly get smashed by a semi truck. MAJOR pucker factor and I know most who survived that feel LUCKY; surely there are those who were involved in wrecks - some of which were fatal.
4. I can't tell you how many "average Joe's" I talk to in parking lots, gas stations, dealerships, etc - who also have EcoBoost F-150's that, when I ask them if they ever had a massive power loss / fall on your face experience, they say "As a matter of fact, yes" and went to the dealer who blew them off, or didn't do anything about it hoping it was a rare fluke. By my own estimation, I'd say 8 out of 10 EcoBoost owners I've talked to have had this happen. And I'd estimate about 200 different owners I've spoken with. NONE of them, except me, has had the CAC replacement. The fixes a few dealers have tried is mind blowing!
So, some of you can say its a non-issue, your truck is fine, etc - and I hope you never experience the issue ever. Maybe you won't. But, if - or I'll say WHEN the day comes and it does happen - I hope you recover safely and are able to pull off the side of the road without causing an accident.
To anyone who has had this happen, please, file those reports. Takes 5 minutes online.
The CAC swap needs to be a safety recall.
05-31-2013, 01:29 PM
#42
Senior Member
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3. How many fatal accidents have there been where the driver is unable to make a complaint or testify to the seriousness of this problem? I have heard plenty people experience the same issue as me on this forum: driving down highway in wet weather, go to pass a slower vehicle and nearly get smashed by a semi truck. MAJOR pucker factor and I know most who survived that feel LUCKY; surely there are those who were involved in wrecks - some of which were fatal.
3. How many fatal accidents have there been where the driver is unable to make a complaint or testify to the seriousness of this problem? I have heard plenty people experience the same issue as me on this forum: driving down highway in wet weather, go to pass a slower vehicle and nearly get smashed by a semi truck. MAJOR pucker factor and I know most who survived that feel LUCKY; surely there are those who were involved in wrecks - some of which were fatal.
On the other hand, I agree, those downplaying the issue because 'only' 95 have reported it out of hundreds of thousands sold are only fooling themselves. I doubt most people would even think of reporting the issue to the NTSB...
05-31-2013, 01:34 PM
#43
Well said jcain...because I was clearly trying to make a number of "scientific" points. That's what recalls and NHTSA complaints are based on after all, right?
Seriously - what was the point of your reply?
Take your own impromptu survey's of fellow EcoBoost owners and see for yourself smart guy.
*Dont know why I bothered responding to that reply...I see from most of jcains other posts he/she just likes to make snarky little smartass comments all over this forum...stand up guy/girl there and provides so much value when his/her little fingers tap out those cute little words. Well done - ya got me for a sec!
Seriously - what was the point of your reply?
Take your own impromptu survey's of fellow EcoBoost owners and see for yourself smart guy.
*Dont know why I bothered responding to that reply...I see from most of jcains other posts he/she just likes to make snarky little smartass comments all over this forum...stand up guy/girl there and provides so much value when his/her little fingers tap out those cute little words. Well done - ya got me for a sec!
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05-31-2013, 01:36 PM
#44
On more meds than ymeski
05-31-2013, 01:41 PM
#45
While I somewhat agree with what you are saying, I find it hard to believe that every single person who has had this happen has either not crashed or has died as a result. I mean I suppose it is possible but I just cannot imagine that it is very likely. So, where are the ones who wrecked and survived?
On the other hand, I agree, those downplaying the issue because 'only' 95 have reported it out of hundreds of thousands sold are only fooling themselves. I doubt most people would even think of reporting the issue to the NTSB...
05-31-2013, 01:44 PM
#46
And your point is...? Completely unrelated and separate issue. I haven't seen widespread complaints about tranny computers failing & causing the issue you experienced - but then again, I don't pay attention to 5.0l issues, so maybe I just missed the abundance of threads on that issue like there are for the EB issue.
05-31-2013, 01:58 PM
#47
On more meds than ymeski
And your point is...? Completely unrelated and separate issue. I haven't seen widespread complaints about tranny computers failing & causing the issue you experienced - but then again, I don't pay attention to 5.0l issues, so maybe I just missed the abundance of threads on that issue like there are for the EB issue.
05-31-2013, 03:23 PM
#48
Senior Member
My point is sometimes a problem with the truck isn't eco related. If you lose power it isn't proof that it is turbo or eco related. I keep hearing about how someone knows a guy whose EcoBoost lost power. Well so did my 5.0 so apparently it isn't always due to the 3.5l TT motor.
05-31-2013, 03:53 PM
#49
On more meds than ymeski
Why you are trying to group an isolated incident with a problem affecting thousands? Obviously incidents can and will happen across with any mechanical part. This is not a case of that. This is a design issue. Yes, it may only affect 5% of overall owners of an Ecoboost, but for some reason you're trying to group a completely unrelated incident into this thread.
Last edited by my67falcon; 05-31-2013 at 04:03 PM.