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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 10:40 PM
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So I'm looking at upgrading to a bigger tire, and was wondering what kind of power loss I can expect with a 34'-35' tire with the 3.31 gear ratio. I have heard from some people that there is hardly no power loss, and from others that there is significant losses. Anyone have any real world experience with a bigger tire combined with this gear ratio? I'm thinking about going with a 295/70/18 tire size.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 12:17 AM
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3.31 here on my 4wd SCrew. I went up to a 275/65/20 (roughly 34.1") in March and have not noticed a significant power loss. Tires weigh about 57lbs each which is roughly 16lbs per tire heavier than stock. The power is still there, but the one thing I have noticed is the truck is not as responsive/snappy from a dead stop. It's not major enough to really complain about.

I will add that I am tuned and calibrated for the tire size. Keeps the transmission from hunting and the tune gave me almost all of my lost mileage back.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Running 275x60x20 Toyo's (33x11) and only one inch taller then the stockers. I can tell a slight difference in performance but not bad. I think it dropped the final gearing down in the 3.20 range by going up an inch. I'd limit my tire height to a 285x60x20 (33.5) but thats just my thinking!

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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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I run a 4" lift with 305/65R18 KO2's which is 33.6" x 12.

87 P/T 5* tune.

I still find I have tons of power for towing and driving. Not a rocket off the line but no slouch either. I didn't really notice much of a diff going from stock size no tune to 33.6" tires tuned.

Never driven a 3.73 geared truck so I don't know what I'm missing lol.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys! I think I will go for a tune first before upgrading to bigger tires.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 10:47 PM
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That's a good process. I hate going back to the stock tune on my truck for service. The increase in diameter definitely makes the transmission a little wacky. If for nothing else, the tune is worth its weight in gold just to re-calibrate the truck.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 10:57 PM
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I put 34.2" tires on a 3.5 ecoboost with 3.55s and was severely disappointed in the performance. Stock tune though, which didn't help. I was so unhappy that I sold the tires a week later and bought 275/60/20 and took a beating on the others.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 11:04 PM
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In my personal opinion, upsizing tires without a re-calibration is like playing a full round of golf with just a putter and no other clubs. Sure it'll work, but your results aren't going to be as pleasurable.

Get it calibrated via a conservative tune and call it a day.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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There have been multiple threads on this topic. Here are links to them.

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/ecoboo...-tires-317635/
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/ecoboo...egrets-190277/

I myself put on some 285/65/18 (32.6" x 11.2") BFG AT KO2's on my truck. There was a definite drop in off-the-line acceleration. I think the biggest problem is that they are E-range tires. I put an MPT tune in the truck at the same time as the tires, so I can't speak to the tires with the stock gear and tune. I can say that I am very happy with my tune.

I will be replacing my wheels and tires with Raptor wheels and tires. I will run the 3.31 gears and tune for the time being, but I plan to eventually replace with 4.10 gears.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 01:50 PM
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3.31 gears, 34x10.50r17 ko2's on mine. They are D load so that helps with weight. It was between them (56lbs/each) or toyo Mt's (70lbs/each) which I have ran many sets of on past trucks.
I'm very happy I went with the slightly narrower and way less heavy tire.
For me the off the line power loss was very minimal, sometimes still break the tires loose.

I also run 5 star and mpt tunes which makes it so I can spin the tires from a stop pretty much anytime I want now.
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