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Old 07-14-2015, 09:46 AM
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In our two Ecoboosts (Explorer Sport and my F-150), I run Amsoil Signature with an Amsoil Filter and still change oil every 5,000 miles.
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funny how the majority here says "don't change the oil based on color", 1 guy says "I use *insert fancy oil here*" and bam, the OP jumps on it like it's gospel

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Old 07-14-2015, 12:56 PM
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Petroleum engineers sped countless hours and dollars to develope engine lubricants that among other things remove contaminants and yet people are concerned about there oil getting dirty. That's one of its properties, hold "dirt" in suspension so it exits the engine when the oil is changed instead of building up as sludge in the heads or pan.
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Originally Posted by stronger800
50k on my Eco. penzoil platinum at 5k intervals with a Motorcraft filter. Oil stays as clean, or cleaner, than any gas engine I've ever had. When I drain it and put it back in the jug it looks brown, about the color of honey. Not black at all, not even dark. I have been looking at trucks/cars in the back lots of more than one dealership and witnessed the bulk oil tankers filling up their oil tanks. My local ford/chysler dealership uses some super economy Sunoco or Citgo type generic label oil when they do oil changes. Not that it's bad oil. But IMO, if your paying for a Ford oil change, you would expect Ford oil, would you not? They advertise Chysler oil chsnges, up to 5 quarts, for $25.99, yet, when I go to the parts counter and buy 5 quarts and a filter......yeah.....it costs like $50. ($50 was actually 6 quarts, think the filter was like $13).
Ford/Chrysler dealership? Is that like a Honda/Toyota one?
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Originally Posted by tanked_darren
Ford/Chrysler dealership? Is that like a Honda/Toyota one?


You think maybe those might be the dealers he visits??

Fwiw the oil in my Ecoboost looks worse than my diesel.
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Originally Posted by winchested
You cannot judge Oil by color oxidation. Not a very good way to judge it.
might as well taste it.

modern oils are superb from just 10 years ago.
if your worried, use an oil analysis,

that being said..my eco dipstick looks pretty clear even at 6500 miles on the oil
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Originally Posted by miniceptor86
Petroleum engineers sped countless hours and dollars to develope engine lubricants that among other things remove contaminants and yet people are concerned about there oil getting dirty. That's one of its properties, hold "dirt" in suspension so it exits the engine when the oil is changed instead of building up as sludge in the heads or pan.
Well when i pulled off my oil cap it looked like liquid charcoal.I dont know how that could be good for the piston walls ect.It doesn't sound logical to me
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Oil is formulated to hold contaminants in suspension, oil filters remove larger particles. If the particle is smaller than the thickness of the oil film seperating moving parts it is not a abrading the surfaces.
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Local dealer here has sold Ford and Chrysler/Dodge/Ram for years. The $13 filter was actually for a mopar. I think they get $6 or 7 for the Eco filter.
It's possible that I have had the oil pans and heads off of more engines than Most of the guys reading this thread. I'll agree that you can't judge oil by color, but after Many years of sending out oil samples to be tested, it's my opinion that oil that comes out of a new engine looking clean, and continues to stay clean over consecutive oil changes, is a pretty good indicator of what the inside of the motor looks like.
This theory goes out the window if your talking a used motor with unknown service history. A oil with a strong detergent package might go in to a dirty old motor, start freeing up gunk and dirt, then carry it into the bearings and wreck it. So that fancy oily would look terrible and get a bad rep. In that instance.


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