Poll: New CAC results (limited to 2 part numbers)
For a history of why this is created, please see this thread.
We have determined in that thread that the new part numbers are as follows: Factory 2013: DL34-9L440-AC Trucks with TSB 12-10-19 applied: BL3Z-6K775-B Please only vote in this poll if you have 1 of these two part numbers for your CAC, and have driven in conditions that would typically cause the condensation problems. Do you still experience the loss of power when accelerating in high humidity/rain after a period of constant speed driving? If you do, comments are welcome. This is NOT a thread for engine wars. |
I have DL34-9L440-AC in my 2013 Lariat, 10-25-12 build date, but I have one number thats different from the ones in the post. Instead of fomoco E1, mine is E2. Dont know if that makes a difference, but I have not had any issues with my ECO.
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The only concern about the poll I have is the wording. Meaning that some may say they have issues with the engine struggling when maybe it isn't a condensation issue at all. For example a bad coil or improper spark plug gapping. Maybe "Do you still experience the loss of power in high humidity/rainy conditions" type of question. Just want the poll to not be muddied with inaccuracies. I am waiting on a new CAC like many others and really hope that this works out. Good luck.
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I said I have had no problems since the fix but I also haven't driven on long trips though the conditions that did it before for me.
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My truck had 13k miles on it before it had an issue. Now I wait like many others for the TSB to be completed.
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I have been living with 12-10-19B and intercoolerBL3Z*6K775*B at 2.5 months now. That’s just about 2,000 miles on the new intercooler and new left CAT (which has already clogged up again).
The truck has considerably less power. The MPG’s in the city were 18 before the fix and 14 after the fix. The best I get onthe hiway is 18 now; use to be about 22-24MPGs. Without reservation I can say this is my last Ford. If Ford were to just “give” me a new 5.0 F150I would not take, because the company is donkey poop. Now when any one tells me about their great Ford EcoBoost(car or truck), I just laugh. |
Reminder to follow the thread in my original post here, but we think it has been determined that if your part number starts with B it is one of the problematic ones, and if it starts with D it should be good.
I hope more people can take this poll with a 2013 or a fixed 2012 and we can get a pulse on the problem being truly fixed. |
I voted fixed...Since my 2013 (8/12 build) received TSB 121115A on1/16 I've not had an issue.
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Originally Posted by kitzi
(Post 2397278)
I voted fixed...Since my 2013 (8/12 build) received TSB 121115A on1/16 I've not had an issue.
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I have a 13 and I was driving on the hwy. I went to pass someone and when I hit the gas I didn't get any response. I barely got around the other person. Is this the problem the rest of you have? Or is it just cuz I'm used to having a V8 with lots of power.
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Originally Posted by bchandler02
(Post 2397288)
Have you driven in the rainy/humid conditions that would typically cause the problem?
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Originally Posted by kitzi
(Post 2397347)
Yeah...Its always humid in SE Louisiana and we've had a bunch of rain the past couple of weeks. I hope its fixed for good...I never had a scary situation with it, but I lost all power on 3 different occasions between Christmas and 1/11 (purchased on 12/17). Twice after getting off the interstate and trying to take off from a stop and once trying to merge after the off ramp...all 3 times there were no cars around me...also countless misfires when taking off from a stop...So rar so good. |
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Mine started having issues on a trip to Louisiana, from Houston, before Christmas. Loss of power happened twice on that trip and it was rainy and humid. I have not had the issue since, but conditions haven't been duplicated either, so I did not vote in the poll. Like others, I have less power and lower mileage with the new CAC. Currently have about 10,700 miles on the truck. 2012 Lariat. Interesting thing is that I got my best mileage on that trip to Louisiana, about 20 MPG. Several trips to San Antonio were 17-18 mpg, but I-10 between Houston and San Antonio is always windy and there is that 75 mph speed limit thing...
You can see the high blip(s) on the attached chart for the Louisiana trip. Now it's lower than ever. The first two fills after the high blips were with a reflash, but no new CAC. The rest are with the new CAC. I'm hoping it just needs to adjust to my driving again. You can see it is stepping up with every other fill which also corresponds with less/more highway miles. |
Originally Posted by John50
(Post 2397737)
Mine started having issues on a trip to Louisiana, from Houston, before Christmas. Loss of power happened twice on that trip and it was rainy and humid. I have not had the issue since, but conditions haven't been duplicated either, so I did not vote in the poll. Like others, I have less power and lower mileage with the new CAC. Currently have about 10,700 miles on the truck. 2012 Lariat. Interesting thing is that I got my best mileage on that trip to Louisiana, about 20 MPG. Several trips to San Antonio were 17-18 mpg, but I-10 between Houston and San Antonio is always windy and there is that 75 mph speed limit thing...
You can see the high blip(s) on the attached chart for the Louisiana trip. Now it's lower than ever. The first two fills after the high blips were with a reflash, but no new CAC. The rest are with the new CAC. I'm hoping it just needs to adjust to my driving again. You can see it is stepping up with every other fill which also corresponds with less/more highway miles. |
Originally Posted by kitzi
(Post 2397347)
Yeah...Its always humid in SE Louisiana and we've had a bunch of rain the past couple of weeks. I hope its fixed for good...I never had a scary situation with it, but I lost all power on 3 different occasions between Christmas and 1/11 (purchased on 12/17). Twice after getting off the interstate and trying to take off from a stop and once trying to merge after the off ramp...all 3 times there were no cars around me...also countless misfires when taking off from a stop...So rar so good.
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Originally Posted by BoostedFx
(Post 2397804)
My truck (2011 FX model) goes in next week for the new TSB CAC fix. I'm afraid of loosing my MPG's cause at the moment I get 21.8 at 68mph. Is everybody with the new TSB getting worse MPG than before the fix????? I might see if I can get the new CAC but without the update to the ECM. I will hold onto my old CAC just incase my MPG's go to crap.
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^^^Thanks ^^^ I drive 450 miles from Florida to South Louisiana (900miles round trip) every 2 weeks. Prime weather conditions for moisture buildup. I would hate to go from 21-22mpg down to 17-18mpg with the NEW TSB update.
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I noticed no difference in mileage with mine. I get 19-20 MPG @ 68 and it drops fast once I get over 70...about the same as before. My truck actually drives much better since the TSB...of course, I've only owned it for a month and a half...
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For Kitzi. 68 mph, 1/2 hour, temp 70f, dew point 67f, 6 mph head wind from sirrius, 19.7 MPG. . Not bad. Boost level was about -1.2 and RPMs 1800. Hope this helps.
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Sorry. That was for BoostedFX, not Kitzi.
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Originally Posted by John50
(Post 2401155)
Sorry. That was for BoostedFX, not Kitzi.
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Stickied per request, will leave it up a week or two for folks to be able to vote.
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Originally Posted by fooseF150
(Post 2397322)
I have a 13 and I was driving on the hwy. I went to pass someone and when I hit the gas I didn't get any response. I barely got around the other person. Is this the problem the rest of you have? Or is it just cuz I'm used to having a V8 with lots of power.
I also live in northern Alberta and experienced the same dangerous situation. Almost all the highways here are two-lane and I need to travel a lot for work, but now I never know if I can safely pass a semi. The engine falter has also given me scares when trying to pull away from a stop, such as crossing a highway or turning left after stopping at an intersection. I try to go, but the truck just limps into the path of oncoming traffic. I explained the dangerous situation to the service manager at local dealer and he just shrugged. I guess there will be fatalities and lawsuits before Ford takes this seriously. |
What I dont understand about this Shudder/Limp mode issue, is the factories install the same parts on the same models for the past 3 years and yet some say they got issues others not. This makes no sense at all. It has to be climate/conditions/driving style to preempt this failure. Ford tried to replace/redesign or do some Computer mods to eliminate the water build up and yet some who have received the changes are still experiencing the same issues. So Ford is replacing the trucks with more defective or ineffective parts/fixes and yet there are aftermarket CAC/IC products on the market, yet there is no claim to guarantee that there product is going to eliminate the water issue or engine stalls.(no disrespect intended). If it is a fix then the aftermarket product needs to start selling these to Ford as true replacement parts(just suggestion). Instead of complaining on this site there needs to be complaints filed on the NHTSA website, maybe there influence will create some kind of information from Ford as to there efforts to put out a once and for all fix that will end this debate. JMHO!
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Originally Posted by fooseF150
(Post 2397322)
I have a 13 and I was driving on the hwy. I went to pass someone and when I hit the gas I didn't get any response. I barely got around the other person. Is this the problem the rest of you have? Or is it just cuz I'm used to having a V8 with lots of power.
When mine failed the truck lost all power and shook violently. I had to limp to the shoulder and wait for the engine to stop shaking. Then I drove off slowly and all seemed OK. I had been driving for about 3 hours in dense fog before I stomped on the gas to pass a semi when it failed. I had the CAC replaced early this month (after waiting for the CAC since November) but haven't been in the right conditions to test the fix. |
fixed my problem. at least 5K since the TSB was applied and not a lick of issues. I live in Vancouver Wa. Not many wetter places to live in country. :)
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For those reporting it is NOT fixed only: Do you have a 2012 with TSB, or a 2013 w/o CSB. Which CAC part number do you have?
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just had my cac and reprogrammed my pcm done today. Took 3 weeks to get the part. Mine is a 2012 eco. My truck wasnt doing what most have said. I only noticed a issue when going up a long slight inclined hill it would seem to have a slight hesitation if the truck didnt down shift. But since the pcm was reprogrammed the dealer said I would notice the truck shift a little harder since they did the pcm. But they said it would go away in a couple of days once the computer learned how I drive. It does shift slightly harder but not bad. Here is what exactly my invoice says, Cause, charge air cooler not working properly. Correction, checked DTC's, replaced the cac assembly, installed the cac shield, and reprogrammed the PCM. So how are your guys trucks after the fix?
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Mine is a 2012 that I had the TSB done on 2/27/13. Since then I've tried to make it do as it did before in the rain or fog, and although I haven't driven in heavy fog again, I've certainly driven in the rain for several hours at a time. I have not been able to make it stall (or cogh like a smoker). You guys that are complaining about passing I have no idea what you could be talking about. When I'm on two lane and intend to pass, when I get a clear shot I stomp this puppy and hold on. It sometimes downshifts into 4th and doesn't kick out till 80. My truck has a governor on it so when it hits 100 it kicks back the power. I personally think that sucks but that's the way mine is programmed. Hope all of you get your's fixed. If not, get rid of them and get something your happy with. Life's to short to wait on a conglomerate like Ford to give you satisfaction.
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Originally Posted by tony montana
(Post 2541190)
just had my cac and reprogrammed my pcm done today. Took 3 weeks to get the part. Mine is a 2012 eco. My truck wasnt doing what most have said. I only noticed a issue when going up a long slight inclined hill it would seem to have a slight hesitation if the truck didnt down shift. But since the pcm was reprogrammed the dealer said I would notice the truck shift a little harder since they did the pcm. But they said it would go away in a couple of days once the computer learned how I drive. It does shift slightly harder but not bad. Here is what exactly my invoice says, Cause, charge air cooler not working properly. Correction, checked DTC's, replaced the cac assembly, installed the cac shield, and reprogrammed the PCM. So how are your guys trucks after the fix?
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Originally Posted by fooseF150
(Post 2397322)
I have a 13 and I was driving on the hwy. I went to pass someone and when I hit the gas I didn't get any response. I barely got around the other person. Is this the problem the rest of you have? Or is it just cuz I'm used to having a V8 with lots of power.
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I'll be sure to vote in a few weeks after mine gets installed. I really hope nothing wrong happens I've been getting great gas mileage averaging about 18 18 1/2 sometimes even getting 24 miles a gallon on the highway on long trips with FX4 crew cab.
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I'm not sure whether my shift was fixed or hurt. When shifting from 1st to 2nd, mine sometimes slams into gear and makes a noticable lurch. I was wondering whether it was from the brake not releasing fully when I let off it (say slowing down in a parking lot to ease through a ditch) or whether it is the tranny itself. Did not notice that before TSB reflash. Anyone else have the hard shift in low end?
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Originally Posted by HoustonFordGuy
(Post 2396283)
I have been living with 12-10-19B and intercoolerBL3Z*6K775*B at 2.5 months now. That’s just about 2,000 miles on the new intercooler and new left CAT (which has already clogged up again).
The truck has considerably less power. The MPG’s in the city were 18 before the fix and 14 after the fix. The best I get onthe hiway is 18 now; use to be about 22-24MPGs. Without reservation I can say this is my last Ford. If Ford were to just “give” me a new 5.0 F150I would not take, because the company is donkey poop. Now when any one tells me about their great Ford EcoBoost(car or truck), I just laugh. All turbos have problems with condensation after they get large enough and under the right climate and loading conditions. Case in point: here is a 700 hp Subaru tuning problem: http://www.wrxtuners.com/forums/f121...uestion-30146/ Here the CAC is icing up under certain loading and weather conditions. Stock turbo VWs have fits CAC condensation in some parts of our country. |
Well Houston Ford Guy I'll tell you what. I had the update put on mine and have had absolutely no more problems. I drove it to Myrtle Beach last week in the rain, and tried to get it to screw up again. Couldn't do it. Coming from Ohio and back I got 18.9 MPG driving 65 to 70 MPH with cruise set most of way down and back. I've driven it 800 miles since then, and still getting 18.9 to 19.6 at 65 MPH.
And for foose150, son you must not know how to stomp a pedal. When I stomp mine down to pass or just to have fun, that thing will shift all the way down to 3rd some times, 4th others, you hear the doooo-wooooop and then all you have to do with mine is hang on and steer it the right way. I don't think a comparable size V8 could put any more of your head into the head rest than this little turbocharged V6 does. I was pissed when it had problems, but Ford fixed it, and I did not lose gas milage or power. I will tell you that in February I was getting 16 MPG where today I'm getting 18, and I think a lot of that has to do with weather. My suggestion to those who got a lemon or think this truck is a loser....get rid of it! Get you something your happy with.....if you can find anything. |
Had intercooler BL3Z*6K775*B along with the deflector CL3Z*19E672*A installed today. Work order notes: "Customer states vehicle misfires under load" Tech notes: "Checked for TSB and SSM found TSB 13-3-3, replaced intercooler and deflector, reprogrammed PCM, Test drove ok" I will be taking a long trip this weekend and will report back next week with mileage, downshifting characteristics, and if I notice any misfires.
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I had mine done 2 months ago. I say problem fixed. I have been in warm weather as well driving. I also seem to have picked up a litttle better mpg's. Went from getting 17 now im getting 18.2. Tons of stop and go traffic here in Maryland. But since they did rhe work I have lost the shift indicator on the dash that says what gear im in
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Originally Posted by tony montana
(Post 2652757)
But since they did rhe work I have lost the shift indicator on the dash that says what gear im in
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Originally Posted by Superbawn
(Post 2645800)
Had intercooler BL3Z*6K775*B along with the deflector CL3Z*19E672*A installed today. Work order notes: "Customer states vehicle misfires under load" Tech notes: "Checked for TSB and SSM found TSB 13-3-3, replaced intercooler and deflector, reprogrammed PCM, Test drove ok" I will be taking a long trip this weekend and will report back next week with mileage, downshifting characteristics, and if I notice any misfires.
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I've had the latest TSB done. Replaced CAC, left side cat and flash. Haven't been able to get it to go in to limp mode again. So, that seems fixed. But I still have shuddering and hard shifts. Also notice a drop in power since the TSB. But my fuel mileage is great. 22-24 on the highway. I average about 19 overall.
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I got my truck on 4-5-13. tsb shroud was done 10-22. no cat replaced. truck ran poorly for months til april when I got tsb for intercooler replacement. replacement was completed, truck run little better but still wont spin tires. I do have 3.73 gears. truck acts like it is loaded up with fuel, then clears out and takes off just decent. milage was always 14.8-15 and now 15.8-16. I drive 15 miles to work and 15 back and 12 of 115 is 55mph. to me that's poor milage. again, I nevr got cats replaced.
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Mine was built 11 May 2012.
BL34 9L440 AD Should I be worried? Also, if the dealership did the TSB before I bought it new on May 2013 (yeah, it was on the lot for a year...lol) where would this be listed? |
Originally Posted by shipsgunner
(Post 2726649)
Mine was built 11 May 2012.
BL34 9L440 AD Should I be worried? Also, if the dealership did the TSB before I bought it new on May 2013 (yeah, it was on the lot for a year...lol) where would this be listed? |
another quick update, It has been 93 hot and humid degrees here most of the week. Truck is still running great with no issues. I have put roughly 4,000 miles on my truck since having this done and it has not acted up 1 time since.
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with the lastest tsb as with my truck, seems like there was some boost loss. how many lbs.?
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Originally Posted by redcrew11
(Post 2726522)
replacement was completed, truck run little better but still wont spin tires. I do have 3.73 gears. truck acts like it is loaded up with fuel, then clears out and takes off just decent.
If yours doesn't do that, I'd take it back. A power surge like that, at full throttle, should break the tires loose. Unless Ford is adding in additional torque management to make it safer in wetter conditions so the 'surge' doesn't cause loss of traction. |
Got my truck back last week after the new CAC. It still "chugs" a little at idle when first starting cold, but after a few seconds it clears up. Noticed no reduction in power (like some others here had stated) while driving and I did notice that the slight hesitation was gone while accelerating quickly. The big test was pulling my 24' enclosed car trailer, in the rain, with my 66 Mustang inside. I floored it at least 3 times and the truck had plenty of power with no hesitation or shuddering, etc. So far, so good!
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I pulled a 72 Chevy long bed this past weekend and didn't care about the gas mileage getting home. Speed varied from 55 to 90 mph. Didn't experience any Shudder. I do have a 2013 that I bought back in December. Now I have 9k miles and its finally getting 20+ mpg driving to work and back. I was only getting around 17 mpg.
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I had the TSB performed on my truck (2012 Super Crew 4x4) in May at 25k miles. Everything seemed better, until...
Truck backstory: Until this past weekend, the furthest this truck ever went was about 90 miles from home. My mileage on the truck comes from a work commute of 43 miles each way. The truck had never gone more than 50 miles from the house until 2 weekends ago, when we went the 90 miles for a wedding (interstate conditions, nice, 80 degrees, sunny day.) Only the slightest surging before the TSB, and noticed on my daily commute that if I didn't put my foot in it regularly, it would hesitate when asked for full steam. So I had the TSB performed. Never a check engine light. No other problems. This past saturday, I left the house at 5AM for a 7.5 hour/ 350 mile drive from home. It was raining continuously for the first two hours. Sometimes hard rain, but it didn't stop for the first 2 hours. I was driving back country roads with mostly 55 MPH limits and rolling hills. Given the weather, type of roads, time of day, etc. I drove gently for the trip, never put my foot in it. Then, when going up a steeper hill that required more throttle than the others to keep my speed up, the truck started hesitating. A lot. More than it ever had before the TSB. And then, just after the hesitation began, something extra occurred that had never happened to it before. The truck started to shudder. This shuddering was akin to driving over road shoulder rumble strips on steroids. As soon as I let off the gas, the shuddering stopped. I gently pushed the pedal, shuddering was back and just as bad. Let off again. It stopped. Pushed the pedal again. It came back. Pushed the throttle once more, and it had stopped. I slowly pushed further on the throttle and it didn't do it any longer. By this time I was down to about 35-40 MPH going up the hill. So I pushed down the pedal almost to the floor. The truck kicked down and accelerated with only slight moments of hesitation. Not once did the check engine light come on. About 20 minutes later I was in clearer weather and dry roads. So I let the truck drop down to about 40 MPH and gave it full throttle, it seemed to have minimal hesitation and behaved more like normal. The rest of the trip, I would get on the throttle more aggressively every so often to try to keep the moisture build-up to a minimum. I did the same coming back home. Thus, I had a textbook case of exactly what the TSB was supposed to solve. |
Update. Took a trip this past week from Alabama to West Virginia towing a Victory Highball motorcycle. Hit a lot of rain on the trip both ways. While in VA going up a long mountain on the interstate I floored it and the got hesitation then the transmission light started flashing. I think the truck went into a limp mode. I pulled over turned the truck off. Restarted and everything was fine. While driving around in WV I noticed a lot of hesitation when pulling out. On the way back I noticed some of the shuttering. After we made it home we went shopping and experienced a TPS fault flashing on the screen. After we restarted it too went away. Needless to say I am taking the truck in to get checked out. I wonder if I should disconnect the intercooler and see if there is any water in it!
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Originally Posted by John50
(Post 2397737)
Mine started having issues on a trip to Louisiana, from Houston, before Christmas. Loss of power happened twice on that trip and it was rainy and humid. I have not had the issue since, but conditions haven't been duplicated either, so I did not vote in the poll. Like others, I have less power and lower mileage with the new CAC. Currently have about 10,700 miles on the truck. 2012 Lariat. Interesting thing is that I got my best mileage on that trip to Louisiana, about 20 MPG. Several trips to San Antonio were 17-18 mpg, but I-10 between Houston and San Antonio is always windy and there is that 75 mph speed limit thing...
You can see the high blip(s) on the attached chart for the Louisiana trip. Now it's lower than ever. The first two fills after the high blips were with a reflash, but no new CAC. The rest are with the new CAC. I'm hoping it just needs to adjust to my driving again.You can see it is stepping up with every other fill which also corresponds with less/more highway miles. |
The TSB was applied to my truck yesterday after my first experience with the problem that is discussed in length here. Mine happened twice on the same day (Saturday in NC...been raining quite a bit). I literally thought the engine was going to implode. Dealer yesterday said when they took the IC off about a liter of water came out. Don't know if it will happen again. Wait and see but if it does I'll get rid of the Platinum and upgrade to SuperDuty. Might as well with my 34' Trailer.
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I had the TSB applied in March 13 on my 2012 S-Crew with the Eco. I've had a repeat of the event two weeks ago while driving back from Gulf Shores on I-65 in a lot of rain. I knew it was coming by the shudder and we were in bumper to bumper 70mph traffic. I called a buddy that was behind me an had him clear me across the lanes of traffic. I am certain it is repeatable under the high humidity and rainy conditions we encountered that day. This event was the initial time its done the "buck and shutter" since they replaced my intercooler and reset the PCM.
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where do you look to see what part number you have? I just bought a ecoboost 2013 with a build date of janurary 2013 should this be good to go?
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Originally Posted by stoop14
(Post 2854350)
where do you look to see what part number you have? I just bought a ecoboost 2013 with a build date of janurary 2013 should this be good to go?
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I just ran 1500 miles in a week trip to Md., then to NC, and then back to Ohio. Rain like a son of a gun all week. I tried to get mine to stutter several times. The new CAC fixed mine. I could not get it to repeat. I have a 2012 4X4 Screw with 3.73. I consider the case closed.
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Originally Posted by Daveleeander
(Post 2881428)
I just ran 1500 miles in a week trip to Md., then to NC, and then back to Ohio. Rain like a son of a gun all week. I tried to get mine to stutter several times. The new CAC fixed mine. I could not get it to repeat. I have a 2012 4X4 Screw with 3.73. I consider the case closed.
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Just added my vote and mine was NOT FIXED! Had the truck for 23k miles and I ended up going back to a 5.0L. Hope all goes well otherwise, I will be moving to another truck manufacturer.
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I posted this on another thread but I figured I would post here too for informational purposes.
Have you guys read Fords letter back to the NHTSA concerning the investigation? It is quite an interesting read. It's on NHTSA's website if interested. One thing on an interesting note, Ford has a new air deflector design that came out on aug. 2, 2013 and they say can be used with the original CAC to eliminate the loss of power during wet conditions. Also Ford has been investigating this problem since early 2012 and tested the F150 echo boost extensively in an environmental chamber. And yes, the did replicate the problem. This letter should be taken to the dealer if you have this problem. They now can't say no they couldn't replicate the problem or no we have never heard of the issue. Interesting information starts on page 12. |
Just want the poll to not be muddied with inaccuracies. I am waiting on a new CAC like many others and really hope that this works out. Good luck.
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I wanted to give it plenty of time before I said anything. I had the CAC done at the beginning of April and drove in the rain many times since and I can honestly say my truck has been 100% better.annndddd My gas milage and power has not suffered. My gas milage greatly greatly depends on how I drive it! If I want good gas milage I have to work at it. I've seen 23.5 at 60 mph but is hard to drive that speed my average the way I drive is about 17mph. not bad for a crewcab in my opinion.
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2011 Eco-Boost Bought it brand new, didn't even know they installed newer intercooler. Current Intercooler: BL34-9L440AB Drove 3 hours in pouring rain, tried to pass going uphill on freeway and lost power. Complained to dealer. Dealer installed "AIR DAM" on lower 1/3 of intercooler. "Checked EEC P0305. Used TSB 13-8-1. Reprogrammed PCM and installed Air Dam" Can someone tell me if I have the latest Intercooler and what all is involved with TSB 13-8-1 ? Does anybody else have the Air Dam installed and has it helped? |
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Build date 3-13
Intercooler DL34-9L440-AD Two severe loss of power / heavy vibration events. One at 720 miles after driving in the rain on the highway (trying to pass semi). One at 1140 miles after being parked for 9 hours, driving in the city for about 15 minutes, then merging onto highway. In for service today, not sure about TSB level, but I do have the CAC indicated in the poll and have had 2 incidents in less than a two week span and within 500 miles of each other. ** Just realized this is a different part number than in the poll. Sorry for the confusion, feel free to delete if off-topic.** |
I noticed the 2014 F-150 with ecoboost (and the 2015 prototype) have a different grille opening in the bottom grille, could this suggest a revised intercooler?
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Originally Posted by Abraham5G
(Post 3018795)
I noticed the 2014 F-150 with ecoboost (and the 2015 prototype) have a different grille opening in the bottom grille, could this suggest a revised intercooler?
Hard to tell if they added a grille or if it is just some sort of diffuser. |
Originally Posted by HoustonFordGuy
(Post 2396283)
I have been living with 12-10-19B and intercoolerBL3Z*6K775*B at 2.5 months now. That’s just about 2,000 miles on the new intercooler and new left CAT (which has already clogged up again).
The truck has considerably less power. The MPG’s in the city were 18 before the fix and 14 after the fix. The best I get onthe hiway is 18 now; use to be about 22-24MPGs. Without reservation I can say this is my last Ford. If Ford were to just “give” me a new 5.0 F150I would not take, because the company is donkey poop. Now when any one tells me about their great Ford EcoBoost(car or truck), I just laugh. This follow up to my previous post earlier this year.... I am happy to report I no longer own the Ford. Life is much better now. There is one part of this long painful saga that might be important to other EcoBoost owners and I got this information directly from one of the leading Ford dealers in the area and from the ownership chain of command - this from a 4 hour discussions over three days. If you have experienced a permanent loss of MPGs (I did) and/or suspect there may be a cracked/bent rod – a heavy knocking sound (I did - from hydro lock); then it is time to get rid of the truck a.s.a.p. because there is more serious damage to come. I now say my prayers everynight: Thank You Lord I'm rid of the Ford |
I have to add an update here. Back in July or so last year I declared mine (2012 XLT Screw 4X4) fixed. However, I had it happen again in November, this time unexpectedly. Drove in rain with cruise set for close to 2 hours. Went to punch it and it started coughing and bucking. Had to feather it for 10 seconds or so, then it picked back up.
I'm going to drill the drain hole. I don't think they have a fix for the earlier models. |
I may in left field here...but has any tried Billet Grille Grill Insert in the air dam? It might redirect the air or rain slightly? It seems the new models have grill insert. I've been running one in my 2013 for cosmetic reasons. There were those that stated maybe this cuts into performance, I haven't noticed it with mine. I installed mine with 2 wing nuts so I can take it out in 2 to 3 mins easy.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dTxN8CjOL.jpg Maybe worth a try...any thoughts |
I thought I read somewhere that "AE" was the most recent IC.
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Had these issues. Have '12 F150 ecoboost, with B type CAC. But had code showing cylinder 2 misfire. Took into dealer. Has 80K btw. Said needed a tune up. Changed all plugs and new ignition coil on cylinder 2 as well. Now I notice a lot more power.
They also updated PCM it says on paperwork. Now I wonder has anyone had issues after doing this? I have read that for '13 and '14s the TSB gets rid of the stick on panels etc and reflashes the PCM. Will this happen for the '11s and '12s? |
Originally Posted by Tool_Box
(Post 3307183)
I may in left field here...but has any tried Billet Grille Grill Insert in the air dam? It might redirect the air or rain slightly? It seems the new models have grill insert. I've been running one in my 2013 for cosmetic reasons. There were those that stated maybe this cuts into performance, I haven't noticed it with mine. I installed mine with 2 wing nuts so I can take it out in 2 to 3 mins easy.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dTxN8CjOL.jpg Maybe worth a try...any thoughts |
I just had the reflash to the latest calibration last week. Unfortunately, between the time they changed my CAC to the latest and put the shrouds on and now, the left cat has plugged. The tech told me he would take the shrouds off when he put the cat on. But he did re-flash it for me and I can tell you with the re-flash I now have my power back (I've got a lot of low end boost now which had disappeared) and my MPG has raised about 2.5 MPG on a frequent 120 mile trip I take. I've got 77k on mine. I expect with the cat replaced I'll see better gas mileage. I"m certainly happy with the truck. I use it in my business, and it's been a good one for two years. And I do run the crap out of it. Maybe thats the secret. I bought it for the boost (and because it would carry my stuff without breaking the springs) and not the eco. For a full size 4X4 I don't think you can beat it. I know you can't from a standing start;)
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Originally Posted by HardDrive
(Post 2960888)
I wanted to give it plenty of time before I said anything. I had the CAC done at the beginning of April and drove in the rain many times since and I can honestly say my truck has been 100% better.annndddd My gas milage and power has not suffered. My gas milage greatly greatly depends on how I drive it! If I want good gas milage I have to work at it. I've seen 23.5 at 60 mph but is hard to drive that speed my average the way I drive is about 17mph. not bad for a crewcab in my opinion.
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So went out through a pasture today. 2013 FX4 EB Supercrew. Some small to medium water pools, but nothing I haven't driven through in the rain on country roads. Leaving and pulling back onto blacktop I hear a funny "whine" instead of the usual clean pull of the turbo's through my afe stage II intake. Shortly after I get a check engine light. Ran my OBD reader on it and gives code P0299 saying "Turbo A is underpressured". Truck runs, no smoke, but is markedly reduced on power. Anyone have prior experiences?
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Its a shame when a man quits on his truck.
My 2011 Ford F150 Platinum EB has been a DREAM of a truck. I purchased it second hand from a reputable dealership . It had 56,000 miles on it and drove like a wet dream. I instantly had to start enhancing upon her AWESOMENESS. In the short couple of months I have owned this truck, I have installed Solo Catted downpipes, BBK TrottleBody, FullRace TB Spacer with nozzles, TurboSmart BOV's, AFE Stage2 CAI ,FullRace Cat-back non resonated exhaust, and sound system that words can't describe.
I can't picture anyone spending the kinda money I spent just to enhance its Awesomeness if they didn't think it was going to last them for years to come and that it was worth the investment if you enjoy the go fast behind the petal. People have misfortune in there lives at one time or another. Well it's the same with auto manufacturers. No one thing or person is perfect. I like to think my EB is nearing perfection one upgrade at a time. |
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what does the tsb do? And how can you get it?
Does your truck need to be under warranty? |
Well,why don't you guys try installing the diablo sport tuner..it will increase the boost keeping the CAC a little hoter,and most likely dry up any water your getting caused by the CAC either working too well in wet,or humid conditions...
Because if you think about it thats what is really happening the condensation is being produce due to the temperature drop,but due to the design it allow moisture to build up inside the CAC.. I would think thats all the dealer is doing,just now where as much as of a increase... Anyway either that post ads to buy CAC from those that replace there's with a aftermarket design..... My friend had a issue with the lose of power,but after installing a tuner the issue went away,and has never came back... |
Originally Posted by HardDrive
(Post 3507423)
UPDATE..... Here we are May 22 2014 and still running good!:D
And is it still working well? |
my new one has been in since april
no issues, at all off idle response from dead stop seems to take bit longer after the reflash to build boost, but its less than a second and then BAM she goes i got new plugs and couple new coils plus the cooler and the reflash in april |
Hi. I am new to this problem and what to do about it. Just wondered my options or if ford is offering "fixes"? I've been reading thru hundreds of posts and not sure if I should badger my dealer in AL and unlikely to get any results, drill a weep hole, new IC (CAC) or install a catch can? this shuddering and power loss happened when highway passing in wet conditions at 69k and 108k miles triggering check engine light. both times they just change plugs and coils, $$$.
2011 f150 ecoboost 4x4 lariat v6, 3.5L. thank you for any help. I couldn't find the letter from ford to nhtsa if you happen to have a link? |
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