ABN Panzer

Can someone school me on a 'requirement' for police package brakes?

Took my truck (2010 FX2) in for brakes... I simply dont have the tools, time, knowledge to do it myself but will look into that later.

Took to a reputable local shop- with very high ratings from friends, co-workers, and local area.

He replaced the front brakes(rotors and pads) and stated that they were coded/serial numbered for a Police Package brake set up ?!? Is this legitimate? They were not overly expensive particularly when coupled with Military discount. I just hadnt heard of such a thing and my internet 'kung-fu' is weak.

He replaced them with Raybestos Police Rotors and pads.

Allquad

They are real.
Hmmm
Don't know about them but here a link ...
http://www.raybestosbrakes.com/magno...-products.html

I'll call and see if I can get a quote today. I've seen a national chain that Metro uses here in vegas. See if they have them.

winchested

Lol, Marketing.

ABN Panzer

The Police Packaging isnt what even got my attention but rather the "Serial Numbered"/coded portion of the discussion.

Like I said... Its a good shop and a hell of a lot more trustworth than the Dealership. I just hadnt heard of it... but there are lots of things I imagine I havent heard of.

STingray1300

Thanks for this info. My rear rotors warped the last 2 times on the way down Teton Pass into Wyoming. They cool off and straighten back out, but I don't like it.

Just beware ABN, that the "police" front pads are *metallic*, not ceramic. The metallic will tear up your rotors much more than the OEM ceramic pads will (even the aftermarket rotors). The only items that are "police" are the front rotors and pads (not the rears). If the pads are fully metallic, then they will take some heavy braking to warm them up enough to work at full capacity. Something that LEOs do, but the general public does not do. But, they will not fade...

FYI.

After making living as a wrench, IMHO the Raybestos 'preferred' set up might be (Raybestos rated as "Super Premium"):

Rotors: F-#680508P (police), R- #680976 (super premium)
Pads: F -#ATD1414C (super premium), R- #ATD1602C (super premium)

I will do some more research into this...

RogueGT

Ceramic will tear up rotors faster than Semi-metallic pads...Google is your friend
Fully metallic pads...stay away from anyone wanting to make you a brake pad out of steel or Fully metallic. Haha, actually there is no such thing. There are 3 types, Organic (<20% metallic), semi-metallic, and ceramic.
Ceramic pads are not recommended for heavy towing or track use. My Mustangs always used semi-metallic when I would drag at Pomona years ago. They are great for stopping power on a 600HP stang.
Semi-metallic will generate more dust, they are louder and won't last as long.

STingray1300

Interesting. I had ceramics on my '95 540 that was "set up". I absolutely loved the way they scrubbed the speed "at speed", really hard braking. *NO* fading! The semi-metallics are usually the way to go for service vehicles, but the Raybestos site lists the Police <front> pads as "metallic". Not sure if this means fully or semi. All I know is fully metallic pads, like we used to use on '60s genre Shelbys and track Mustangs used fully metallic pads/shoes. Tore the crap out of rotors and such, but once they heated up, there wasn't anything they couldn't stop, at any speed. Don't want 'em on my truck though.

So the choice for our trucks is what? I want to replace the rotors and pads with a set up I don't have to be concerned about.

Thanks!

techrep

iTrader: (1)

EBC sport rotor with Hawk ceramic pads up front.. great stopping power and very little dust

RogueGT

Mmmm, depends on your use of the truck for pads. If you're doing a lot of highway driving and not much heavy hauling you'll probably be ok with ceramic and they'll keep your wheels cleaner, make less noise.
For hauling, like you said, semi-metallic will heat up, and that's good because they tend to grab better than ceramic, better stopping power.
Earlier days semi-metallic was referred to as just "metallic" since there were only semi-metallic and organic - organic contained asbestos back then.
Todays organics have no asbestos and <20% metallic.
Ceramic pads actually classify as an organic pad with less metallic fibers and contains ceramic particles (not ceramic fibers). This then led the charge for the "Buzz word" Ceramic pad.
Don't get confused, there are still organic pads that are not "Ceramic" they contain aramid fibers, Kevlar, vermiculite, and some other good bonding compounds.
To sum it up...
Semi metallic - hauling and track use.(less rotor wear, pads wear faster, more dust, more noise)
Ceramic - normal driving. (More rotor wear, pads wear slower, less dust, less noise)

techrep

iTrader: (1)

My rear rotors warped the last 2 times on the way down Teton Pass into Wyoming. They cool off and straighten back out, but I don't like it. ??

How does this happen ??