On3 coyote f150 twin turbo kit
03-29-2017, 12:53 PM
#51
A friend of mine builds turbo LS motors has said that for a DD On3 would be OK, but not if you are serious about speed. He has one of the fastest LSX drag radial cars. He said he measured boost on one of their kits on a customers car at 19PSI, but it dropped to 10psi through the IC. For the street, about 10 PSI is where you'd want to be anyway. I told him I may just get the kit and have him install it. 600WHP is enough for me. No need to go over that. On3 kits are reasonable.
I'm not looking to make MASSIVE power or even drag it. May take it to the strip for a laugh or two but mainly want a good DD that makes good power. Don't want to go the SC just because it isn't unique anymore and it costs 5K for one!
03-29-2017, 01:09 PM
#52
Basically the same reason I'm considering On3. Not wanting to spent $7,000 on a SC kit. $4,000 to build an Ecobeast sounds much better.
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Cammy (03-29-2017)
03-29-2017, 04:54 PM
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Cowboy of the Skies
A friend of mine builds turbo LS motors has said that for a DD On3 would be OK, but not if you are serious about speed. He has one of the fastest LSX drag radial cars. He said he measured boost on one of their kits on a customers car at 19PSI, but it dropped to 10psi through the IC. For the street, about 10 PSI is where you'd want to be anyway. I told him I may just get the kit and have him install it. 600WHP is enough for me. No need to go over that. On3 kits are reasonable.
03-29-2017, 06:28 PM
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WestsydeGuy (03-30-2017)
03-30-2017, 01:03 AM
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Cowboy of the Skies
03-30-2017, 07:49 AM
#57
just a little more info that I've scraped together. There's a YouTube video of this kit on the dyno, on their test truck. Put down 530/580 at about 9 psi. Emailed On3, and they said that same truck made about 460 on 5 psi. These are rwhp numbers. The oil pump is different in the F150, but On3 is making a specific gear for our pump. Said they ran stock fuel setup for 5 psi and swapped injectors for the 9psi. Who needs an ecoboost?
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03-30-2017, 09:58 AM
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I'm happy with my 2014 5.0 V8 Platinum as is/factory stock so ill pass.
From what I gathered,this isn't a turn key package (whitch is fine for some I'm sure) but it would be nice if they offered it as a "turn key package" (turbos,supporting hardware,installation procedure,and a safe calibrated tune for the setup ready to go) like Roush and Whipple offer.If they did that and even bumped the price up to say $5k-$6k,would still be cheaper than a Roush/Whipple kit.And even making a safe modest 600 crank hp and 600 crank tq would be very safe for a 5.0 V8 considering there's thousands of otherwise stock 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs making 700+ hp repliably (getting driven hard).
It still suprises me that 6 years later (since the 5.0 V8 made its return/the 3.5 V6 EB made its presence) that no one has done/offered a turn key modest turbo "package" (almost like a 5.0 V8 EB) on the 5.0 V8.
From what I gathered,this isn't a turn key package (whitch is fine for some I'm sure) but it would be nice if they offered it as a "turn key package" (turbos,supporting hardware,installation procedure,and a safe calibrated tune for the setup ready to go) like Roush and Whipple offer.If they did that and even bumped the price up to say $5k-$6k,would still be cheaper than a Roush/Whipple kit.And even making a safe modest 600 crank hp and 600 crank tq would be very safe for a 5.0 V8 considering there's thousands of otherwise stock 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs making 700+ hp repliably (getting driven hard).
It still suprises me that 6 years later (since the 5.0 V8 made its return/the 3.5 V6 EB made its presence) that no one has done/offered a turn key modest turbo "package" (almost like a 5.0 V8 EB) on the 5.0 V8.
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03-30-2017, 10:10 AM
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Im not ******* the kit, just making sure that you are aware that there are several things that go into getting the kit on, running and supporting the power that brings the cost closer to the typical supercharger kit pricing. My personal On3 Cobra kit started under $2k, but by the time you get everything on and working, fuel system, boost control, better t-bolt clamps and better V-band clamps (theirs are junk), connect the exhaust, charge piping to throttle body rework because the angle was off, heat wrap and blankets (an absolute must- the heat these things create is crazy), I had quite a bit more in it, probably close to double because all that little stuff adds up.
If if I remember right, a Procharger kit is less than $6k complete, and a Roush is like $6.5k and is 50 state street legal. I will bet the On3 kit will cost around $5.5-6k all in once it's truly road worthy, and take quite a bit more time to get on and working than a Procharger. I have had every type of power adder, sometimes on the same car. Turbos are amazing, and are probably the ultimate power adders, but for a tune it and forget it daily driver, especially something as heavy as a truck or something that would pull trailers, I personally would steer towards a supercharger. The heat issues alone with turbos is enough for me not to want to deal with a retrofitted installation (read:not factory) in a truck.
Just my $0.02 from personal experience.
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03-30-2017, 10:15 AM
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I'm happy with my 2014 5.0 V8 Platinum as is/factory stock so ill pass.
From what I gathered,this isn't a turn key package (whitch is fine for some I'm sure) but it would be nice if they offered it as a "turn key package" (turbos,supporting hardware,installation procedure,and a safe calibrated tune for the setup ready to go) like Roush and Whipple offer.If they did that and even bumped the price up to say $5k-$6k,would still be cheaper than a Roush/Whipple kit.And even making a safe modest 600 crank hp and 600 crank tq would be very safe for a 5.0 V8 considering there's thousands of otherwise stock 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs making 700+ hp repliably (getting driven hard).
It still suprises me that 6 years later (since the 5.0 V8 made its return/the 3.5 V6 EB made its presence) that no one has done/offered a turn key modest turbo "package" (almost like a 5.0 V8 EB) on the 5.0 V8.
From what I gathered,this isn't a turn key package (whitch is fine for some I'm sure) but it would be nice if they offered it as a "turn key package" (turbos,supporting hardware,installation procedure,and a safe calibrated tune for the setup ready to go) like Roush and Whipple offer.If they did that and even bumped the price up to say $5k-$6k,would still be cheaper than a Roush/Whipple kit.And even making a safe modest 600 crank hp and 600 crank tq would be very safe for a 5.0 V8 considering there's thousands of otherwise stock 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs making 700+ hp repliably (getting driven hard).
It still suprises me that 6 years later (since the 5.0 V8 made its return/the 3.5 V6 EB made its presence) that no one has done/offered a turn key modest turbo "package" (almost like a 5.0 V8 EB) on the 5.0 V8.