fordfan77

Wow! I never said I didn't change my oil at 5000 now, I have read the manual. And I've been taking my previous cars to well over 250,00 miles, with no issues.

Maybe I should have said that, but I didn't expect all you know-it-alls to get so worked up over it.

Pierluc

according to the manual, oil have to be change at least once a year and up to 16 000km, folowing the message center.

i was laughed at first time i changed the oil at 5000km from the dealer telling me it was at 7000km. but now they really dont want me to pass the 8000km mark, thats funny.

ill just wait for that message to show up, i dont have much time to go the the garage, thats the reason i bought a new vehicle at the first place

medic75

I realize most of us are too young to remember this, but it was a big deal when it came out. After this there was actually 3,000 mile oil change intervals. It was during the 90's when 5,000 and 7,500 mile oil change intervals became normal. Even then, some manufacturers (mostly Europeans with use of synthetic oils) were pushing the limits with 10,000 and 15,000.

My point is that technology has changed. Both engines and oils have seen vast improvements over the past 20 years.

If someone tells you that you need to change your oil at 3,000 miles, they are unwilling to accept change or benefiting from giving poor advise. Both of those things don't do a darn thing for you. Would you let them change brake pads that don't need changed? Then why let them change your oil? Unless they have a lab in the back of the shop (believe me, they don't), they have no idea if the oil needs changed or not.

Everybody has an opinion on this subject, but not too many of those people have any type of engineering degree hanging on the wall. The team of many kinds of engineers (who are paid very well to know what they know) have already figured this out for us. They did all of the work to prevent us or the local mechanic from having to worry about it.

So, next time your mechanic tries to push 3,000 or 5,000 mile oil changes, just ask to see his engineering degree.

medic75

Had an interesting conversation with my service manager the other day. He suggests oil changes at 5,000 miles instead of the 7,500 miles that it says in the owners manual. The idiot doesn't even know that the manual states maximum 10,000 or 1 year. This is no better than the slimy mechanic who tells you that you need new parts when you really don't. His arguement is that the turbos like clean oil. I wanted to ask him if I should dump some dish soap in the engine to clean it every month, but I knew it was useless.

zitterich246

I took mine to 9800 miles. Service department wasnt too happy, but why put a monitor on it if they dont want to use it.

amascio

The only reason they weren't happy was you just cut their profit in half!
Having said that, I think that Ford has done a lot of tuning to these direct injection engines since their involvement with Mazda.

My Mazdaspeed3 required 5k oil changes, tops. It also sooted it's exhaust pipe something terrible. The used oil coming out of him smelled more like gas than oil - dilution city!

Now, several years later, my Ecoboost engine, which is basically the same scenario, soots his exhaust pipe way, way less. He can also use regular gas which was a no-no with the MS3. The EB engine was also designed from the ground up to be a truck engine.

I am willing to bet one of Ford's design parameters was environmentally driven - use less oil over the life of the vehicle, including the oil needed to lubricate the engine.

I will be changing the oil in the wife's EB truck next weekend and it'll probably be at 10% by then. If something drastic has occurred, I'll be back with the news.