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Nice! The first one doesn't use AN fittings, and the second one is a little too fancy for me to put on a truck that sees weather. I have a winter "beater" so my truck is officially retired from salt duty, but still. I'd put that on a hot rod in a heartbeat though!
Thanks for the hose info. I'm going to stop by my hydraulics supplier and inquire about the hose I have. I did a short search and most 300 psi rated hose has a burst rating of 1200 psi but like you found most are rated to 100*C.
I'm not sure it's a huge concern though. How much hotter does our oil get? Don't you figure there's a safety margin? If Summit and Jeg's are advertising this stuff as friendly for motor oil they and the manufacturers have to know guys are using it on performance applications. I've seen oil temps as high as 275 in my Corvette before I put a cooler on it, but that's beating the snot out of it at 6500+ rpm for long periods of time. MAYBE an EB would see oil temps like that pulling a heavy load in the summer, but there's a factory oil cooler on there that I would think keeps the oil temps in line with the coolant.
Could someone in a southern state, or somewhere without snow and 18 degree weather outside do me a solid and measure something? Based on counting pixels and knowing that oil filter is appox. 5.2" tall, can someone tell me if a 6" bracket would fit there? Measure from the tab to bottom of the top thing the upper red line is on.
Beaker, is that 1" aluminum corner stock? Also, what if that bracket was mounted on the next tab over closer to the passenger side? The hoses would be a little longer for more volume, and you could have more of a sweeping bend to the lines which would help with pressure.
Last edited by Mike94ZLT1; 02-09-2018 at 11:06 AM.
Yes 1" angle aluminum stock bought at Princess Auto (same as Harbour Freight). Also available at Lowes and Home Depot. Bolts are 3/8" with large washers and a lock washer under the nut.
There is not enough room on the passenger side as the 2 turbo feeds to the intercooler are directly above the push pin location (see pic). My 2 large XG8A filters added 1.3 litres to the system. I didn't measure the hoses or the engine adaptor.
My hydraulics shop confirmed my hose is rated at 100*C (212*F). I don't think our trucks see that as you mentioned the water to oil cooler runs at coolant temp. I've not seen my water temp over 95-98*C. There is a 4:1 safety margin for working pressure so there must be some tolerance for temperature as well.
I found a thread on another forum where a few guys were mounting their filters like this. Would having the hoses run up that high cause a possible drain back issue causing a brief period of oil starvation at startup? I do like this position better, it's easier to access and I doubt it would do too much as far as blocking airflow to the radiator, at least with a single filter. I've had a row of four note Cadillac horns across the front of the radiator for two years now with no issues, I would relocate them (probably to where you put your filter) if I put filters in this spot.
I also found some different hoses I like that aren't much more. Fragola has their own series of push lock hoses, and they have a braided sleeve over them. They're also designed to be used with an Oetiker clamp. I called Fragola to confirm, and I was told that the clamps should be used if the hose is near the limits of its recommended operating specs. I took that to mean "you can but it isn't necessary". So I think I'm going this route and using clamps for additional piece of mind. The Oetiker style clamps they use are meant to prevent you from over tightening, so you won't damage the hose.
Yes, I overthink things, but having experienced expensive catastrophic failures in the past that I believe could have been prevented by better planning, I err on the side of caution now!
I chose my location based on the fact that my truck is an FX2 and it would be on ramps to change oil. I have a Fumoto drain valve that makes draining a mess-free operation. I wanted to keep my hose runs as short as possible so there wouldn't be any huge loss in pumping efficiency. Also my filter head is at or slightly below the stock filter location. All modern filters have an anti-siphon feature so I'm not worried that my system would be void of oil on start-up. Think of cold morning starts. The pump will have to work harder to get oil to the filter BEFORE it gets to the engine.
I did look at other locations such as this but I felt the hose length and height might cause pressure issues. Even with my location I increased the hoses from 1/2" to 5/8" and ported and smoothed all the adaptors and filter mount. With the dual filter there is redundancy as the oil flows to both filters.
02-09-2018, 09:52 AM
