Oil and cam phasers 4.6l
I'm sure this has been covered but I can't find it using my phone lol and if this forum is like any other then the oil threads are always fun but...
Back story:
I just bought a new to me 2010 F150 xlt 4x4 with the 4.6L (167,000 miles), I was supposed to pick it up 2 weeks ago but the dealer said it needed cam phasers and timing chains. I waited an extra 3 days so they can fix it, picked it up Wednesday the 16th, drove it until Saturday the 19th, got over to a buddies house to show him the new truck and when I went to leave it was making the worst sound ever and check engine light on. It was the cam phasers that were just changed. I towed it to the dealer and they have had it ever since.
I am looking forward to getting my truck back but in the mean time I was told to change to 5w 30 from the 5w 20. I see all over one person will suggest it then another person says no. Also everything I read is old and pre 2010. So what is best for the truck? I live in the Midwest, don't tow anything, not really hard on the truck
Back story:
I just bought a new to me 2010 F150 xlt 4x4 with the 4.6L (167,000 miles), I was supposed to pick it up 2 weeks ago but the dealer said it needed cam phasers and timing chains. I waited an extra 3 days so they can fix it, picked it up Wednesday the 16th, drove it until Saturday the 19th, got over to a buddies house to show him the new truck and when I went to leave it was making the worst sound ever and check engine light on. It was the cam phasers that were just changed. I towed it to the dealer and they have had it ever since.
I am looking forward to getting my truck back but in the mean time I was told to change to 5w 30 from the 5w 20. I see all over one person will suggest it then another person says no. Also everything I read is old and pre 2010. So what is best for the truck? I live in the Midwest, don't tow anything, not really hard on the truck
5w 30 is a good choice. Anyone who says otherwise goes on the basis of "you should only use what Ford recommends", without any other logical explanation
Anything is thicker than that can be harmful though (10w-40 etc.)
Anything is thicker than that can be harmful though (10w-40 etc.)
Back story:
I just bought a new to me 2010 F150 xlt 4x4 with the 4.6L (167,000 miles), I was supposed to pick it up 2 weeks ago but the dealer said it needed cam phasers and timing chains. I waited an extra 3 days so they can fix it, picked it up Wednesday the 16th, drove it until Saturday the 19th, got over to a buddies house to show him the new truck and when I went to leave it was making the worst sound ever and check engine light on. It was the cam phasers that were just changed. I towed it to the dealer and they have had it ever since.
I am looking forward to getting my truck back but in the mean time I was told to change to 5w 30 from the 5w 20. I see all over one person will suggest it then another person says no. Also everything I read is old and pre 2010. So what is best for the truck?
I just bought a new to me 2010 F150 xlt 4x4 with the 4.6L (167,000 miles), I was supposed to pick it up 2 weeks ago but the dealer said it needed cam phasers and timing chains. I waited an extra 3 days so they can fix it, picked it up Wednesday the 16th, drove it until Saturday the 19th, got over to a buddies house to show him the new truck and when I went to leave it was making the worst sound ever and check engine light on. It was the cam phasers that were just changed. I towed it to the dealer and they have had it ever since.
I am looking forward to getting my truck back but in the mean time I was told to change to 5w 30 from the 5w 20. I see all over one person will suggest it then another person says no. Also everything I read is old and pre 2010. So what is best for the truck?
yeah I don't have much faith in the dealer since it is a Buick/GMC dealer. They have been working on it for over a week now. I wish they would send it to ford and let them do it but they said their mechanic is good
The oil viscosity is not what usually caused the cam system failures on those old Triton engines, poor maintenance is usually the culprit. Those engines are not tolerant of a lack of maintenance (especially the 3V engines) and are not designed for extended oil change intervals. My cousin has a 2006 F-150 XL with over 230,000 miles on the 4.6 engine. He doesn't baby it but he does change the oil every 5,000 miles and only uses Motorcraft filters. He has not had any engine problems, although it is the less powerful but more reliable 2V engine. I also think that pushing and engine hard is good for the engine. That 4.6 in his truck is not exactly powerful so WOT is needed in everyday driving like merging on the interstate. I believe the more you baby an engine the more problems you will have. Opening it up and pushing oil pressure to the max may help prevent small particles or sludge building up in the VCT system by forcing any contaminants out.
Last edited by RL1990; May 28, 2018 at 07:20 PM.
What logical explanation do you have for not using what Ford recommends? Ford designed, tested and built the engine. They also work with the suppliers for engine components that are built using the specifications that Ford gave them. One of those specifications was the 5W20 oil requirement.
While I agree that maintenance had a huge part in the phaser failures, running lighter weight will also cause a lesser oil pressure which will have an affect to an extent.
Originally Posted by FX4yyc
5w 30 is a good choice. Anyone who says otherwise goes on the basis of "you should only use what Ford recommends", without any other logical explanation
Anything is thicker than that can be harmful though (10w-40 etc.)
Anything is thicker than that can be harmful though (10w-40 etc.)
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