NHTSA being fooled??
#12
You make a couple of valid point mamonti. However, I feel the majority here would feel that the issue some have with the ECO, a truck, is not worth the hassle and will not be an issue where they are willing to make a "stand" for the better good. The F150 is a product from a company. There are many others. So, I can see where others will say buy something else if you are not happy. That's what will ultimately get Ford's attention, not forum threads, NHTSA complaints or threats of class action lawsuits. Frankly, when you compared the F150 to a Pinto, you lost me.
#13
Senior Member
Reads like a pretty straight forward discussion of the problem to me. How many ecoboosts are on the road? They sell 600k+ F150s a year, say 1/3 have EB engines, times 3 years of production, thats 600,000 Ecoboosts running around, average say 12k miles per year, that's what, 7 billion miles driven? These are ballpark numbers.
The fact that there has not been a single documented accident in literally many billions of miles driven tells me I can probably sleep safely tonight knowing I am not going to die driving to work tomorrow.
I don't mean to trivialize the problem, but perspective, people.
The fact that there has not been a single documented accident in literally many billions of miles driven tells me I can probably sleep safely tonight knowing I am not going to die driving to work tomorrow.
I don't mean to trivialize the problem, but perspective, people.
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#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
You make a couple of valid point mamonti. However, I feel the majority here would feel that the issue some have with the ECO, a truck, is not worth the hassle and will not be an issue where they are willing to make a "stand" for the better good. The F150 is a product from a company. There are many others. So, I can see where others will say buy something else if you are not happy. That's what will ultimately get Ford's attention, not forum threads, NHTSA complaints or threats of class action lawsuits. Frankly, when you compared the F150 to a Pinto, you lost me.
#15
Your right! I know the way to hurt is to take away the money,, but that is a shame when we use to be a country where integrity and pride was taken in the products they sold! As for the Pinto? Well again you are dead on,,,, when the poop hit the fan on the pinto gas tank issue (be it still a controversy) you couldn't sell or trade it in! The answer from Ford,,, they stopped selling them!
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Reads like a pretty straight forward discussion of the problem to me. How many ecoboosts are on the road? They sell 600k+ F150s a year, say 1/3 have EB engines, times 3 years of production, thats 600,000 Ecoboosts running around, average say 12k miles per year, that's what, 7 billion miles driven? These are ballpark numbers.
The fact that there has not been a single documented accident in literally many billions of miles driven tells me I can probably sleep safely tonight knowing I am not going to die driving to work tomorrow.
I don't mean to trivialize the problem, but perspective, people.
The fact that there has not been a single documented accident in literally many billions of miles driven tells me I can probably sleep safely tonight knowing I am not going to die driving to work tomorrow.
I don't mean to trivialize the problem, but perspective, people.
#17
Senior Member
Thread Starter
I agree with you 100% in your efforts to get Ford to correct. But the only thing corporate America listens to is Declining Sales. If you want to hit them where it hurts, Don't buy another Ford truck. When Ford loses market share on there #1 selling vehicle then and only then will they care about what the consumer is telling them. Your Voice is in your Choice!
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#18
International man of Myst
I hope you are right for you, your family, me and everyone else! But keep in mind many are in climates that don't have the conditions to have the failure. So your number are still impressive but so are the airlines but a plane still falls from the sky now and then and when they do,, they ground each and everyone of the model until all the repairs are made!
#19
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Sorry Guys I guess I am through ranting on this forum. I will still provide help to those I can and just try to keep my voice to myself as it seems we are all getting use to anyways.
#20
Senior Member
Thread Starter
No, drive it as I do mine. Nor do I suggest you never fly,,,,, I want it fixed though! of course for those that don't need warranty work ever and if you do and can't get it done I guess you will be as happy of a camper that you are now! If you have a problem with your truck will you take it to the dealer??? Why??? This doesn't seem to be a problem to you so why would anything else,, even a bad window switch?
Last edited by mamonti; 10-25-2013 at 01:39 PM.