Nav vs non-nav models
#1
Nav vs non-nav models
Given the challenges Ford is having with the Nav systems, I'm now curious what sort of effort would be involved with installing an aftermarket nav radio. On the plus side, perhaps the total sound system quality would be much better. On the down side, there is some factory integration and form factor issues that I don't have my hands around yet, and it's tough to tell the dash differences from the small online shots. I've tried to capture some of the obvious differences/challenges, but I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking about:
- Dash layout is different, non-nav models have different buttons/controls, and don't have the nav screen cutout in the dash. I'm not sure if it's as simple as ordering a new dash piece for a unit with factory nav so an aftermarket screen will fit, or if there's more to it than that. If the other control buttons between the nav/non-nav models are totally different, then this probably won't work. Is it best/easier to cut/fabricate the existing dash bezel to accommodate an aftermarket nav radio screen?
- HVAC controls are different, not sure where they display if not in the nav screen
- Rear camera goes to mirror, is it difficult to re-route to an aftermarket deck, or does a new camera need to be added in order to send the signal to a larger screen?
- Can all Sync functions be integrated with an aftermarket deck?
If anyone out there has experience integrating an aftermarket nav radio in a truck that did not come with nav originally, I'd appreicate any insight into the experience.
- Dash layout is different, non-nav models have different buttons/controls, and don't have the nav screen cutout in the dash. I'm not sure if it's as simple as ordering a new dash piece for a unit with factory nav so an aftermarket screen will fit, or if there's more to it than that. If the other control buttons between the nav/non-nav models are totally different, then this probably won't work. Is it best/easier to cut/fabricate the existing dash bezel to accommodate an aftermarket nav radio screen?
- HVAC controls are different, not sure where they display if not in the nav screen
- Rear camera goes to mirror, is it difficult to re-route to an aftermarket deck, or does a new camera need to be added in order to send the signal to a larger screen?
- Can all Sync functions be integrated with an aftermarket deck?
If anyone out there has experience integrating an aftermarket nav radio in a truck that did not come with nav originally, I'd appreicate any insight into the experience.
#2
#3
Given the challenges Ford is having with the Nav systems, I'm now curious what sort of effort would be involved with installing an aftermarket nav radio. On the plus side, perhaps the total sound system quality would be much better. On the down side, there is some factory integration and form factor issues that I don't have my hands around yet, and it's tough to tell the dash differences from the small online shots. I've tried to capture some of the obvious differences/challenges, but I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking about:
- Dash layout is different, non-nav models have different buttons/controls, and don't have the nav screen cutout in the dash. I'm not sure if it's as simple as ordering a new dash piece for a unit with factory nav so an aftermarket screen will fit, or if there's more to it than that. If the other control buttons between the nav/non-nav models are totally different, then this probably won't work. Is it best/easier to cut/fabricate the existing dash bezel to accommodate an aftermarket nav radio screen?
- HVAC controls are different, not sure where they display if not in the nav screen
- Rear camera goes to mirror, is it difficult to re-route to an aftermarket deck, or does a new camera need to be added in order to send the signal to a larger screen?
- Can all Sync functions be integrated with an aftermarket deck?
If anyone out there has experience integrating an aftermarket nav radio in a truck that did not come with nav originally, I'd appreicate any insight into the experience.
- Dash layout is different, non-nav models have different buttons/controls, and don't have the nav screen cutout in the dash. I'm not sure if it's as simple as ordering a new dash piece for a unit with factory nav so an aftermarket screen will fit, or if there's more to it than that. If the other control buttons between the nav/non-nav models are totally different, then this probably won't work. Is it best/easier to cut/fabricate the existing dash bezel to accommodate an aftermarket nav radio screen?
- HVAC controls are different, not sure where they display if not in the nav screen
- Rear camera goes to mirror, is it difficult to re-route to an aftermarket deck, or does a new camera need to be added in order to send the signal to a larger screen?
- Can all Sync functions be integrated with an aftermarket deck?
If anyone out there has experience integrating an aftermarket nav radio in a truck that did not come with nav originally, I'd appreicate any insight into the experience.
#4
Senior Member
From talking to an audio shop here, as long as you use an audio shop that knows what they're doing, every feature of the factory radio can be retained, including factory Sirius radio and Ford SYNC - there were a few radios that wouldn't work, and a few that would. Don't buy the radio from Best Buy, find an actual car audio shop.
#5
Senior Member
The integrated nav system with sync is without question way better than aftermarket units, but I have seen a few threads with people talking about decent alternatives. Have seen lots of mentions of kenwood and pioneer units. Perhaps further down the road they will be able to retain all stock functionality and steering wheel buttons.
#6
Senior Member
From talking to an audio shop here, as long as you use an audio shop that knows what they're doing, every feature of the factory radio can be retained, including factory Sirius radio and Ford SYNC - there were a few radios that wouldn't work, and a few that would. Don't buy the radio from Best Buy, find an actual car audio shop.
#7
Also, with car audio, the install is just as important as the components. This is why for audio more than just getting some type of AM/FM player in the dash, one needs to find a true professional installer.
A good professional audio shop will know what to do with a F-150. These are popular vehicles, and a good shop will know the vehicle well, especially being able to preserve SYNC, the Sirius radio, etc.
A bad install will pretty much force you to sell your pickup as parts. Especially if the electrical system gets fried.
A good professional audio shop will know what to do with a F-150. These are popular vehicles, and a good shop will know the vehicle well, especially being able to preserve SYNC, the Sirius radio, etc.
A bad install will pretty much force you to sell your pickup as parts. Especially if the electrical system gets fried.
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#8
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I actually found it in an old email -
JVC KW-NT50HDT along with a SYNC adapter, Sirius adapter , SWC adapter... maybe a few other adapters lol there were LOTS of adapters.
It was something like $2,000 for the radio and all the parts (I wanted a nav-radio) so I saved the money and bought a big screen TV instead (No, the TV isn't in the truck)
JVC KW-NT50HDT along with a SYNC adapter, Sirius adapter , SWC adapter... maybe a few other adapters lol there were LOTS of adapters.
It was something like $2,000 for the radio and all the parts (I wanted a nav-radio) so I saved the money and bought a big screen TV instead (No, the TV isn't in the truck)