Which seams to contradict the retrofit source testing video (flips results of Osram and Phillips)

 

I don't think it does. The max lumen (according to bulb facts) of the Philips is higher than the osram. 5595 for the Philips and 5273 for the osram. But the high and low output are different and the osram wins there even with less lumens.

 

It's not what they'd basing their charts on though, they're using the more useful Lux instead of lumens, which is why it's showing the Osram as the winner.

However, the lumen testing by retrofitsource seems to counter that (which is what i was referring to)






Source:

 

I think we are agreeing with each other.

Retrofit uses lumen, and if we look at the bulbs lumen output on bulb facts, the Philips would win if that was the deciding factor. So retrofit and bulb facts would then have the same winner. But bulb facts uses low and high lux output to decide who "wins"

 

Yeah, not sure why they do that, it is, in my opinion, not a good way to measure them and their (bulb facts) leaderboard is therefore misleading.

 

I noticed they're not reliable. Chinese junk.

 

Morimoto are not made in China, they are made in Taiwan, it's an important distinction.

 

Morimoto are not made in China, they are made in Taiwan, it's an important distinction.
Thousand shipping every month, hard to argue with that quality.

 

I'll just say buyer beware. Don't buy them without a warranty. Even after they sent me the replacement I noticed one of the top drls turns on a second faster than the other. This is what I mean by quality. Just cuz thousands ship out doesn't mean they're quality.

 

I have not been on here for a while. So the XB's are made in Taiwan. Well so are the Spyder's and it looks like hit or miss on most of these except for the factory ones. I posted on here back when the Spyder lights came out (Thread about them)and I did a HID conversion using the 13/14 model Spyder projectors on my 2012 and a TRS harness and relay with factory Osram bulbs and ballast. Then it cost me about $680 bucks and my Spyder lights are still functioning as from day one. Only had a small problem and that was at my factory connector and fixed it in a flash, nothing to do with the lights. I've had them in there for about 8 or 9 years now and not one single failure. No water, as I put a little film of extra silicone around the lenses, I also have the Spyder tails and no issues and the seller put extra sealant on them before they shipped them. I also have all my connections with dielectric grease and on the back of the connectors where the wire pins go in I silicone them a day or two ahead of installing them. Anything you can do even to these XB's to keep the connections and seal areas dry will at least prevent that failure. If my lights go out tomorrow I will have gotten my money out of them because the vision and cutoff on low and distance on high is so clear and I don't blind drivers have then set correctly. I have a little minimal turning on the outside of each light from the uv rays. So right now I am at $75 bucks a year if the just quit. My wife's old CRV headlights started turning worse at 9 years old when we sold it. i think some people live in worse climates than others, I live in the south. We just bought a jeep with factory halogens so her I go again, LED or HID? Lol! we all have some sort of money pit, but at the end of the day each of us have to be happy with what we spend and sometimes you can spend a lot and still not be happy. But that is what these forums are for to help one another when we can. I honestly like HID as when Led first came out it was scattered all over in the headlights, but it has came along way. I think if you are going to drop over a grand on any lights you should get a warranty, just my opinion. TRS is very good at what they do, but I called them the other day to talk to someone about my new Jeep wrangler JL lights and had to leave a number, over a week and have not heard back. It is a busy time of the year and back then ther customer support was awesome, do not know about now.