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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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With an LSD like True-trac combined with Ford's one wheel spin control that is already on your truck, you would have to be in very nasty stuff to where even lockers would not help you. I have Fords OE clutch style LSD and have been through packed mud, sloppy mud, and even loose sand without needing 4wd. The one wheel spin control brakes individual wheels helping the LSD engage a lot sooner. It also helps the LSD apply more torque to the tire with traction when one tire is in the air. I plan on exchanging my factory LSD for True-trac when my drivetrain warranty expires.

I know a lot of people with say just go with a locker because it is the be all end all when it comes to off road, but the neglect to tell you the price of adding it to a differential that does not have it. You will easily spend at least a grand more on an E-Locker or ARB lockers including having to mount and wire up a switch. They also fail to look at tires too. Even with lockers, caked street tires go nowhere. On of the best things you can do to help with your trucks off road ability is the right tire. If you are going in mud a lot, then get a tire that will easily clean itself off with little revs. Then I would look at getting an LSD or locker.

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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Kohalic
With an LSD like True-trac combined with Ford's one wheel spin control that is already on your truck, you would have to be in very nasty stuff to where even lockers would not help you. I have Fords OE clutch style LSD and have been through packed mud, sloppy mud, and even loose sand without needing 4wd. The one wheel spin control brakes individual wheels helping the LSD engage a lot sooner. It also helps the LSD apply more torque to the tire with traction when one tire is in the air. I plan on exchanging my factory LSD for True-trac when my drivetrain warranty expires. I know a lot of people with say just go with a locker because it is the be all end all when it comes to off road, but the neglect to tell you the price of adding it to a differential that does not have it. You will easily spend at least a grand more on an E-Locker or ARB lockers not including having to mount and wire up a switch. They also fail to look at tires too. Even with lockers, caked street tires go nowhere. On of the best things you can do to help with your trucks off road ability is the right tire. If you are going in mud a lot, then get a tire that will easily clean itself off with little revs. Then I would look at getting an LSD or locker.
Damn, good point! I always forget the new electronic LS because on my 10 I don't have it! Lol

He is right, good tires will get you further than a locker and street tires.

Cost is anywhere from $250 (Loc-right) - $1000 (ARB). ARB will be one of the most expensive because you have to mount a compressor to run it, it's small and dedicated to the locker.

Then there is the possibility of damaging drivetrain components when using locker.
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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Hmmmm./

Well, I guess that I will go down and talk with my Ford service guy and figure out why wheel spin was not transferred to other tire (which was on concrete) and see if I have a problem or I need to get an LSD.

Lots of opinions and solutions..
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF150

The F-150 has an "electronic" traction control that acts like a limited slip, and from most of the feedback from guys on here, it works pretty well. It is not mechanical, so when the computer/abs system senses wheel slip, it applies more brake to that wheel to attempt to transfer power to the wheel with better traction. If I stab my throttle from a stop, I can chirp both tires and leave 2 marks.
Does anyone remember when most trucks came with open diffs and no traction control? The E- brake applied two clicks was the nearest thing to a e-locker...lol
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SVT Guy
Does anyone remember when most trucks came with open diffs and no traction control? The E- brake applied two clicks was the nearest thing to a e-locker...lol
Yep and if you had a wheel in the air, tapping the brake would send power to the one with grip but it was clumsy! Lol
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SVT Guy

Does anyone remember when most trucks came with open diffs and no traction control? The E- brake applied two clicks was the nearest thing to a e-locker...lol
That is what they call a poor mans locker. It didn't work that well with open diffs, but it worked great with LSD. Now the truck does that all by itself and even does one wheel at a time.

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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Kohalic
That is what they call a poor mans locker. It didn't work that well with open diffs, but it worked great with LSD. Now the truck does that all by itself and even does one wheel at a time.
How about Lincoln locker? Welded spider gears! Lol
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