Looking for a F150
#11
The 5.0 v8 came out in 2011 also and is alot better than the 4.6 or 5.4 imo and personally i prefer it to the ecoboost for a variety of reasons.
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#12
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If you have any interest at all in these 2 engines you should go test drive both. The better reliability of the 5.0 is purely speculation at this point as there isn’t enough real data to say one is more reliable than the other. For daily driving under normal circumstances and towing within the manufacturers rating there’s no reason to believe the ecoboost won’t be just as reliable as the V8 and last as long. I can’t argue with sound, a V8 sounds great and the coyote particular so, and IMO the ecoboost sounds bad for a v6 if you’re looking into aftermarket exhausts. There is turbo lag, but you get used to it really quick and the massive amounts of low end torque make up for it IMO. Spend $450 on a tuner and it’ll get rid of some of the lag too.
I think the biggest thing is how you want your engine to drive. I can lumber along and almost never get about 2500 rpm with my ecoboost and stay ahead of traffic, while the Coyote really needs to be revved to make power. At its heart it’s a Mustang/car engine shoved into a truck so it won’t have that stump-pulling low end torque that truck V8 engines of the past were known for.
I think the biggest thing is how you want your engine to drive. I can lumber along and almost never get about 2500 rpm with my ecoboost and stay ahead of traffic, while the Coyote really needs to be revved to make power. At its heart it’s a Mustang/car engine shoved into a truck so it won’t have that stump-pulling low end torque that truck V8 engines of the past were known for.
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Ric27 (09-28-2017)
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I think the biggest thing is how you want your engine to drive. I can lumber along and almost never get about 2500 rpm with my ecoboost and stay ahead of traffic, while the Coyote really needs to be revved to make power. At its heart it’s a Mustang/car engine shoved into a truck so it won’t have that stump-pulling low end torque that truck V8 engines of the past were known for.
I suspect the answer lies in publishable power figures. From a driveability standpoint, the lower the RPM at which you make peak power (especially torque) the better. Oh well, first world problems. If we can spend leisure time debating the best engine for our advanced modern trucks, we've got it pretty good !
#17
If you have any interest at all in these 2 engines you should go test drive both. The better reliability of the 5.0 is purely speculation at this point as there isn’t enough real data to say one is more reliable than the other. For daily driving under normal circumstances and towing within the manufacturers rating there’s no reason to believe the ecoboost won’t be just as reliable as the V8 and last as long. I can’t argue with sound, a V8 sounds great and the coyote particular so, and IMO the ecoboost sounds bad for a v6 if you’re looking into aftermarket exhausts. There is turbo lag, but you get used to it really quick and the massive amounts of low end torque make up for it IMO. Spend $450 on a tuner and it’ll get rid of some of the lag too.
I think the biggest thing is how you want your engine to drive. I can lumber along and almost never get about 2500 rpm with my ecoboost and stay ahead of traffic, while the Coyote really needs to be revved to make power. At its heart it’s a Mustang/car engine shoved into a truck so it won’t have that stump-pulling low end torque that truck V8 engines of the past were known for.
I think the biggest thing is how you want your engine to drive. I can lumber along and almost never get about 2500 rpm with my ecoboost and stay ahead of traffic, while the Coyote really needs to be revved to make power. At its heart it’s a Mustang/car engine shoved into a truck so it won’t have that stump-pulling low end torque that truck V8 engines of the past were known for.
That said, at 6500' a 5.0 or 6.2 is down 20% on power due to the lower air density, while an ecoboost is making the same power as stock or more with a tune. It will run circles around pretty much any N/A V8 here. With a tune and 3.73 gears I can pull my 5500 lb/24 ft Travel trailer along at 70 mph in 6th gear on 2-3% grades before it needs to downshift. No V8 is gunna be doing that at 6500'.
Spot on. The 6.2 is even that way to a degree. I love mine and its a blast to drive, but why didn't they make it a small bore/long stroke instead of the other way around? Especially considering THIS engine was being built strictly for the truck market.
I suspect the answer lies in publishable power figures. From a driveability standpoint, the lower the RPM at which you make peak power (especially torque) the better. Oh well, first world problems. If we can spend leisure time debating the best engine for our advanced modern trucks, we've got it pretty good !
I suspect the answer lies in publishable power figures. From a driveability standpoint, the lower the RPM at which you make peak power (especially torque) the better. Oh well, first world problems. If we can spend leisure time debating the best engine for our advanced modern trucks, we've got it pretty good !
The 6.2 is probably an awesome motor though. I do miss the V8 from my 2006 GTO and Trailblazer SS and with the new direct injected 5.0, I could see myself going back. Slap a blower on there with the DI and you could have some serious bottom end and even more top end.
Last edited by mass-hole; 09-29-2017 at 02:50 PM.
#18
Senior Member
Don't go filling my head with foolish notions....
I've already looked at a Whipple and now I may have to go into a 12 step program to control myself.
I've already looked at a Whipple and now I may have to go into a 12 step program to control myself.
#19
As I stated before, (it was deleted) , If I had to do it over again, buy a 1995 model and rebuild it.
The new ones are crap compared to that year/model.
I own a 2013, hate it.
They don't make them like they use to. I don't see it getting any better.
I'm having to turn the front rotors at 27K miles.
My 1995 went 89K miles before the first brake job.
The new ones are crap compared to that year/model.
I own a 2013, hate it.
They don't make them like they use to. I don't see it getting any better.
I'm having to turn the front rotors at 27K miles.
My 1995 went 89K miles before the first brake job.
Last edited by Lee308; 09-29-2017 at 07:47 PM.
#20
And thank God in Heaven for that.
I have owned or been the primary driver of a '68 F-100, '70 F-100, '91 F-150, and '13 F-150, as well as a '97 Ranger and a '99 Explorer, and my dad and I were working on a '37 Ford Pickup ('til some guy offered him stupid money for it), plus I have my folks' '84 Bronco and my grandpa's '51 F1 sitting on the slab next to my garage. My '13 is more comfortable, more durable, has a bigger payload, can tow more, gets far better gas mileage, rides better, and has brakes that are so much better it's not even funny. It's also a hell of a lot safer than any of those older trucks.
Have I mentioned the fact that when I bump that starter, the engine roars to life, first time, every time? Holy cats, after spending way too much time dealing with old Ford and John Deere tractors where that ain't a given, I freaking LOVE that.
Don't get me wrong--I love me some old cars and trucks (I have several), but they ain't a stitch on these modern F-150s.
I have owned or been the primary driver of a '68 F-100, '70 F-100, '91 F-150, and '13 F-150, as well as a '97 Ranger and a '99 Explorer, and my dad and I were working on a '37 Ford Pickup ('til some guy offered him stupid money for it), plus I have my folks' '84 Bronco and my grandpa's '51 F1 sitting on the slab next to my garage. My '13 is more comfortable, more durable, has a bigger payload, can tow more, gets far better gas mileage, rides better, and has brakes that are so much better it's not even funny. It's also a hell of a lot safer than any of those older trucks.
Have I mentioned the fact that when I bump that starter, the engine roars to life, first time, every time? Holy cats, after spending way too much time dealing with old Ford and John Deere tractors where that ain't a given, I freaking LOVE that.
Don't get me wrong--I love me some old cars and trucks (I have several), but they ain't a stitch on these modern F-150s.