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Old 11-19-2013, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselDawg
Waited to see all 3 videos before commenting. These three "testers" are just three guys that found a way to get paid to play. The testing parameters are a joke. From asking if the Ford was in Tow/haul mode after already starting the test (set later during the test) to not knowing how to set the brake gain...ridic.

Keeping the other trucks floored and letting on and off the pedal on the Ford(mpg mean nothing with that bogus method...lol)...nothing can be really gained from this test except to say all 3 made it down to the bottom and up to the top without incident.

Still fun to watch for entertainment sakes...now what were these guys names again???
The Ford was floored throughout the test once it hit 65 the last time. About a mile up the road.
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Wondering what video you were watching??? They were having to let off the throttle of the Ford...going 70+ and heading to 80mph. The Chevy was dropping to 2900rpms and having to downshift to get up to about 55mph. Regardless, the Ford was pulling great at a much lower rpm range.
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Originally Posted by BigCountryTexas
The Ford was floored throughout the test once it hit 65 the last time. About a mile up the road.
...and the Chevy could not match the 65mph. Average speed advantage goes to the Ford
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Originally Posted by DieselDawg
Wondering what video you were watching??? They were having to let off the throttle of the Ford...going 70+ and heading to 80mph. The Chevy was dropping to 2900rpms and having to downshift to get up to about 55mph. Regardless, the Ford was pulling great at a much lower rpm range.
That was only at the beginning before they were a mile up the road where the incline started to happen where all the trucks started to have trouble. Yes it could have hit 80 during that point, so could the Titan if they had the space and any truck for that matter. After they slowed down there and accelerated up again they had it floored. See the times that were posted for exactly where it happened and when.

Either way, the Ford pulled back up to speed MUCH slower than the Silverado did to make it shift again. If the F150 had 100 more hp it would be doing the same thing, and shifting up to a OD gear and probably unable to hold it as well.
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Originally Posted by DieselDawg
...and the Chevy could not match the 65mph. Average speed advantage goes to the Ford
It could if they put the transmission in manual mode and kept it from shifting to OD. The FORD only held it because it didn't have the power to accelerate to the shift part of the rpm range again as fast. It did shift and when it did it slowed down to 57~ where it had to shift up again.

GM's fault is they waited for it to go down too far in the rpm range to shift down again.

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Originally Posted by BigCountryTexas
I agree with the comments in the video itself. This is a good break down and the F150 obviously didn't have the grunt to accelerate as hard as the 6.2L to shift as often but the F150 did shift twice but it had less power to make it more obvious. Guarantee if they MANUALLY forced it to hold the gear it would have kept 65+ in the Silverado with no issues.

From the comments on a user there:

Here is the breakdown of the F150. It also was downshifting some after watching the video several times. But Power levels the 6.2L had way more power to pull back to 65 real fast when it downshifted vs the Ford took forever to get back up till it shifted again.

7:20 - Slowly accelerating hill up to 65 mph and the F150 shifted
8:50 - Slowing down
9:20 - 62 mph
11:30 - 57-60 mph the truck slowed too and then downshifted to the lower gear again
12:20 - Acelerated back up to 64 mph SLOWLY
13:06 - 65 mph
13:20 - steepest part of mountain they slowed to 61 mph

The F150 was also shifting but not near as much because it didn't have the power like the 6.2L to accelerate to top out the gear and shift to the OD gear again like it did once or twice on this run. The 6.2L has the power way more than the Ford to pull and shift but it didn't have the power to hold it in the OD gear. Neither truck did.
Uh, say that again. You kind of lost me. Your saying that the ford has less power because it couldn't top out a gear? Yet, it was able to maintain at least 60 and never had to downshift as low as second gear.

Oh, and NONE of these trucks were able to get into the OD gears going up that grade.

I would've thought the chevy would have a better grade logic that could've kept it in 2nd. It would have had a much better result.
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Originally Posted by Watt-maker
Uh, say that again. You kind of lost me. Your saying that the ford has less power because it couldn't top out a gear? Yet, it was able to maintain at least 60 and never had to downshift as low as second gear.

Oh, and NONE of these trucks were able to get into the OD gears going up that grade.

I would've thought the chevy would have a better grade logic that could have kept it in 2nd. It would have had a much better result.
Yes, the Ford had less power but enough to hold it to slowly accelerate. So it held the speed longer vs the GM where it had way more power and was able to accelerate up fast again and shift to OD.

The F150 maintained 60 for most of the way except the time it went into the mid 50s where it had to downshift. The F150 did hit either 4th or 5th gear and so did the GM. That is where both trucks slowed down.

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Who knew that a forced induction engine would be better in high elevations.....
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Hey, I'm new here, I have been reading it for a long time but never posted. I have a 13 FX4 Screw Eco with the max tow and I love it. With the tow test the brake temp is too high.
1) I don't think they had the gain set properly
2) The truck was not in tow/haul mode. They turned on the tow mode going up the hill
Just my two cents
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Originally Posted by BigCountryTexas
Yes, the Ford had less power but enough to hold it to slowly accelerate. So it held the speed longer vs the GM where it had way more power and was able to accelerate up fast again and shift to OD.

The F150 maintained 60 for most of the way except the time it went into the mid 50s where it had to downshift. The F150 did hit 5th gear and so did the GM. That is where both trucks slowed down.
Ok, so I kind of see where your going with this. The chevy might have had a little more at the top end of the rpm range. It was able to demonstrate this by dropping one gear lower than the ford. IF there was no rpm limitations on the chevy AND it could stay in that lower gear for the extent of the uphill portion, then yes, I too believe that the chevy could possibly be a little faster than the ford while pulling that grade.

However, that was not the case here. The ford was able to maintain a higher gear longer at a lower rpm because at that lower rpm the ford actually makes more power which allowed it to stay in that higher gear.


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