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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampawright
Sorry but that is a drawing created by Banks obviously which is not a fact sheet or dyno sheet but rather a MARKETING sheet... that is my point precisely. I would like to see true dyno sheets before I discredit CAIs all together. EVERYONE is going to say there product has positive outcome.
It is most certainly a fact sheet as well as marketing, their testing methodology is posted on their site and can be read by anyone. Claims such as these have to be backed by fact, or its false marketing which is against the law. Unless you can discredit their testing methods and prove it false, then it stands as is. If it was, they would have had many a lawsuit from the other companies they are specifically naming on the list, a very bold move.

And I already agreed that EVERYONE does say their products have positive outcomes because they do. Those outcomes however are at higher RPMs than really benefit a truck. If spending the money for what they give you you deem worth it, then its most certainly worth it. I personally do not think the mod is worth what it costs. And if you are going for looks and sound and its worth the price, more power to you.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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Aftermarket CAI's on the 09/10 trucks are a waste of money. Unless you add a blower or something similar the factory intake is more than sufficient.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Do what ever makes you happy, I wouldn't listen to half these yahoo's on here. I know for a fact you get better throttle response with it, or at least I did.

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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ktpman
Do what ever makes you happy, I wouldn't listen to half these yahoo's on here. I know for a fact you get better throttle response with it, or at least I did.
there is 1... can I get 3 more

Originally Posted by bbronco66
Aftermarket CAI's on the 09/10 trucks are a waste of money. Unless you add a blower or something similar the factory intake is more than sufficient.
and you know this how?
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Up to the point your intake, cam and valve events restrict airflow (provided the motor the exhaust flows well), more air induction is always going to make more power if the ECM is tuned for the added airflow to pull more fuel for the spark/timing advance it is set for to adjust the air:fuel ratio. CAI's are effective up to a certain point and they do improve throttle response.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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This is a funny thread...

As far as increasing air going into the intake with a A/M intake, does anyone have anything actually proving that an A/M intake increases the actual air intake over stock??? The argument over the CAI is pretty much over, if it is an open element in the engine compartment, you are sucking in air that is going to be hotter than outside air, if you disagree on that there is nothing that can be done to help you... If it is an A/M intake, you must prove that it is actually providing more air in a more efficient manner than stock and that this increase in air is actually needed... Nobody needs to prove that it does not, as it is almost impossible or unfeasible to prove a negative...

The pissing contest over this has gone around and around time and again on each model year of all of these trucks (and Mustangs, and whatever)... To the OP, use the friggin search button next time and to Tampawright, good job on trying to take an adversarial position on both side of this subject just to stir the pot... Posting something with the caveat of "no disrespect intended" and then to post little shots back at Shotgun proves that disrespect while maybe not intended, did happen...

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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by camstng66
if it is an open element in the engine compartment, you are sucking in air that is going to be hotter than outside air, if you disagree on that there is nothing that can be done to help you...
In this case, it wouldn't be a Cold Air Intake ... biggest problem is companies make these and falsely market them as CAI's and they are not CAI's by definition. They are, however, less restrictive intakes and they do improve throttle response regardles of whether the air is hot or cold. IMHO, these are not worth paying the money they cost when you can buy a true CAI for about the same price, which DOES bring in outside air.

No rocket scientry that denser cold air produces more positive effects over hotter less dense air. I don't believe anyone would be foolish enough to argue that. My previous point is a true CAI reduces airflow restrictions and brings in the same air from outside the vehicle's engine compartment.

Even removing the restrictive intake baffles and changing to a less restrictive air filter to the stock intake is going to produce a positive effect, powerwise.

Here's a pretty good read on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_air_intake
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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So I have a new platinum and haven't figured out what all I will do but I admit that exhaust and intake are thoughts. Money and priorities of a bed liner, bed cover, etc., make it a wish list at this point. I believe that the engine is an air pumper so more in and out could help power/mileage. Past all that, and bottom line, if the original poster likes the sound, thinks the intake looks cool, do it and more "power" to him. Pun could be intended.

My other "brothers" (please don't hate me for owning something from the General) did some extensive, independent, more technical than we can keep up with testing on our '10 SS Camaros and posted the results. Check the spreadsheet on the first post and read it, believe it, ignore it, whatever. I definitely see the results as marginal at best given the investment when everything else is left stock. But if you turn up the demand on the air pumper with exhaust, fuel, tuning, etc, I betcha the CAI helps. No personal first hand data, just a guess.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ht=cai+testing

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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Good feedback Apollo. As you assert, it's really the overall combination of mods which produce the best results. Good luck with your mods and congrat's on the Platinum ... beautiful, premium ride. <drool>
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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After looking at your signature, We would all agree on a Thanks for serving Our Country. God Bless you and your family.
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