88RedLX

As an engineer who works on cars/truck/boats/bikes I'm the first to find fault, but I try to learn from those "poor designs" and carry that into work with me every day so that I can influence things to be a better design...but sometimes it's just not possible. But when you consider the thousands of parts to go into the design and manufacture of an entire vehicle, it's a MARVEL that it all works as well as it does.

Liner-wise, I don't know how much experience you have with thermoforming, vacuum forming or injection molding parts, but anyone who is charging more than about $10 for these is making a killing...Chrysler, Rugged Liner, or anyone else for that matter.

I worked with a supplier that made products twice this size (same material, but equally as thick or thicker) and they were less than $15 to manufacture. Granted there's tooling costs, development costs, etc. that must be recovered, but Rugged Liner isn't exactly giving these away. And clearly they're not breaking the bank on some high dollar containerization as they're showing up unboxed and merely taped together with a packaging slip.

Theocoog

You'll get no argument from me. I don't have any experience with thermoforming, vacuum forming or injection molding of plastics and although I agree with you on the relative cost of these liners, I think you have me confused with another poster: I'm not buying these things at all, at any price. I don't plan to install them even if they are free. My comment, that you quoted, was a suggestion that if Ford meant for these to be installed, they would at least offer them as an aftermarket accessory, similar to how they sell mud guards. The very fact that Ford doesn't sell them tells me that they (Ford) do not think they should be on there. Other posters disagree, as you can see. They do put them on some vehicles - a 2007 Explorer that I used to own came with wheel well liners from the factory.

danbart

I've had mine in for a week:

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/ultima...100362/index5/

dcfluid

Well the negativity towards the liners seems to be unwarranted. My brothers have had F150 's for the last 20 years and this is my first.
They've had bad experiences with rocks denting the outside of the box sides from the inside.(from the wheel well area)
Expensive paint jobs and rusty sides later they now put plastic deflectors in the wheel well on every new F150. I had no such issues on my ...ahem... GMs.

tompat01

Well I never said anything bad about Ford engineers. Me being an engineer ...a manufacturing engineer I know a thing or two about where to save money in certain manufacturing processes. Heck, that's what I do for a living. But to think that something will cause more damage blocking out 99.9% of the crap from the road. That's just rediculous.

Just wondering if you feel the same way about the skid plates? I could imagine a boat load of stuff getting caught up there.

But to put this matter to rest, thank you I really hope they don't cause any problems. And I hope both our decision work out for us.

Theocoog

I agree - good luck to you. Good point about the skid plates, too - I'll have to keep an eye on them.

88RedLX

Definitely not looking for an argument, just adressing your point about the cost. And just because Ford doesn't offer them, doesn't mean there isn't a market...because it appears there is one to some degree. MOPAR offers many things because it makes them money...lots of money. They were the second largest profit center in the corporation when I worked there.

I suspect we can agree that there are pros and cons to almost everything...and in my opinion, there are many more pros to having them installed. As I previously stated, I battled rust issues on my 2004 Dakota from getting contamination from the underside of the wheelhouse (due to no liners)...therefore, I will likely be installing a set in my F-150.

Additionally, I'm not confused about your intentions at all...to each their own.

Bosro

Let anybody who wants these liners and lives around Calgary Alberta that I just ordered them from Toys For Trucks right in Calgary for $170 including install....
Since I can't get them shipped off EBay to Canada anyway I don't think this is a bad deal....

acw

a couple of notes: (2010 Platinum)

If you have factory flares, you may want to trim all four of the push pins back, not just the one that is refered to in the instructions.

I did not have the fuel overflow line where the instructions depicted, nor any corresponding hole in the frame rail for the push pin. I used a large zip-tie around the frame rail and through the hole to better secure the inside edge.

Really nice product and a worthwhile addition...

bubbabud

Orderd rugged liners on ebay They arived on monday Iinstalled them this morning Install was straight forward and they fit and look great. The instructions could be a little more complete but once I got the wheels off it was pretty much self explanitory. I did not feel it was neccisary to use silacon sealer as they fit nice and tight and I dont see a problem with any movement. as to the issue of road salt and rust I live in and use my truck in the desert south west and the only salt the truck will ever see is when I haul it home for the water softener. bubbabud 2011 F150 SC Ecoboost.