I think this GM product will give Ford a run for it's money...
11-23-2013, 10:45 AM
#21
Beer Gut Extraordinaire
Yeah, I have to agree here. I wonder how reliability is going to play out with this system. Tesla, Fisker, GM Volt and Ford C-Max have all had problems with the electric/hybrid powertrain.
11-23-2013, 11:40 AM
#23
Senior Member
Just a kind copy of Dodge from 2002...except it was a Diesel (definite plus)
http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/electric-PHEV.html
http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/electric-PHEV.html
Last edited by DieselDawg; 11-23-2013 at 11:46 AM.
11-23-2013, 11:47 AM
#24
Inebriated 4 ur safety
As someone who has had a chance to drive an electric vehicle meant for performance before, I am not against the technology. If you think the Ecoboost or diesel has instant torque then you haven't driven an electric vehicle. Screw having your peak torque at 2,500 rpm or even 1,600 rpm like diesels, how's about 100% torque at 0 rpm. Yes, peak torque at ANY rpm as soon as you mash the pedal all the way and it stays that way until you let off. How much torque you want to apply depends on your foot and not because the engine has to get into it's power band. Electric engines have been used in industrial applications for years and was even around before internal combustion engines became popular.
The main problems with EV's is their cost, range, recharge time, and battery weight amongst other things. Our current technology just isn't enough for EV's to topple the internal combustion engines reign. However that may change soon with technology being currently developed like the lithium-air battery which is A LOT smaller and has an energy density up to 10-15 times of current batteries which would turn that 40 miles before charge into 400-600 miles before charge. They are also shown not to be as hot on discharging/recharging or as effected by different temperatures. The charge time is also greatly reduced. Although the cost of such batteries is unknown which is a major deterrent for us "common folk". With this VIA Motors Chevy truck, it would actually cost more per year based on my energy company's kWh rate(which is below national average) and my driving habits since I do not use my personal truck during the week.
I wouldn't mind having an electrical motor under the hood because I know it's capabilities. Some may say that it won't last long in certain environments, but they tend to forget that they already have a battery and electrical system under their hood exposed to such elements. The only thing that turns me away is the battery life, costs, and ease of filling up a internal combustion engine in less than 10 minutes to get you another 400 miles versus waiting for hours recharging a battery to go 40 miles. If those were fixed then I would give a try.... in a different truck of course. Not a Chevy fan based on past experiences.
The main problems with EV's is their cost, range, recharge time, and battery weight amongst other things. Our current technology just isn't enough for EV's to topple the internal combustion engines reign. However that may change soon with technology being currently developed like the lithium-air battery which is A LOT smaller and has an energy density up to 10-15 times of current batteries which would turn that 40 miles before charge into 400-600 miles before charge. They are also shown not to be as hot on discharging/recharging or as effected by different temperatures. The charge time is also greatly reduced. Although the cost of such batteries is unknown which is a major deterrent for us "common folk". With this VIA Motors Chevy truck, it would actually cost more per year based on my energy company's kWh rate(which is below national average) and my driving habits since I do not use my personal truck during the week.
I wouldn't mind having an electrical motor under the hood because I know it's capabilities. Some may say that it won't last long in certain environments, but they tend to forget that they already have a battery and electrical system under their hood exposed to such elements. The only thing that turns me away is the battery life, costs, and ease of filling up a internal combustion engine in less than 10 minutes to get you another 400 miles versus waiting for hours recharging a battery to go 40 miles. If those were fixed then I would give a try.... in a different truck of course. Not a Chevy fan based on past experiences.
Last edited by Al Kohalic; 11-23-2013 at 12:00 PM.
11-23-2013, 11:54 AM
#25
PT's anwser is nope ! I can imagine a pile up on the I 90 with a string of 80 powered by this.
11-23-2013, 11:55 AM
#26
Senior Member
As someone who has had a chance to drive an electric vehicle meant for performance before, I am not against the technology. If you think the Ecoboost or diesel has instant torque then you haven't driven an electric vehicle. Screw having your peak torque at 2,500 rpm or even 1,600 rpm like diesels, how is about 100% torque at 0 rpm. Yes, peak torque at ANY rpm as soon as you mash the pedal all the way and it stays that way until you let off. How much torque you want to apply depends on your foot and not because the engine has to get into it's power band. Electric engines have been used in industrial applications for years and was even around before internal combustion engines became popular. The main problems with EV's is their cost, range, recharge time, and battery weight amongst other things. Our current technology just isn't enough for EV's to topple the internal combustion engines reign. However that may change soon with current technology being developed like the lithium-air battery which is A LOT smaller and has an energy density up to 10-15 times of current batteries which would turn that 40 miles before charge into 400-600 miles before charge. They are also shown not to be not nearly as hot on discharging/recharging or as effected by different temperatures. The charge time is also greatly reduced. Although the cost of such batteries is unknown which is a major deterrent for us "common folk". With this VIA Motors Chevy truck, it would actually cost more per year based on my energy company's kWh rate(which is below national average) and my driving habits since I do not use my personal truck during the week. I wouldn't mind having an electrical motor under the hood because I know it's capabilities. Some may say that it won't last long in certain environments, but they tend to forget that the already have a battery and electrical system under their hood exposed to such elements. The only thing that turns me away is the battery life, costs, and ease of filling up a internal combustion engine in less than 10 minutes to get you another 400 miles versus waiting for hours recharging a battery to go 40 miles. If those were fixed then I would give a try.... in a different truck of course. Not a Chevy fan based on past experiences.
11-23-2013, 08:04 PM
#27
Senior Member
I like it, bu I'm no where near ready to own one. The idea of power exporting is awesome though
At least put it in a high country or Denali trim equipped truck.
11-23-2013, 11:37 PM
#30
Senior Member
New Silverados are butt *** ugly. No flow interior and 'new' styling exterior which is a newer 90's model. No thanks. And that god awful "new" rear bumper step that's in competition with Ford's tailgate step yet they've had those bumpers on the Avalanche's back when, 2003. Must be new technology. Ha! My past and current Chevy experiences with my old car and families existing cars further secures my decision that I love my '12 F150 FX4. 