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BigNoggin 12-13-2017 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by eyecandynsx (Post 5573731)
Upgrade your D3S bulbs to CBI's if you want simple. If youre feeling frisky, bake the lights open and replace the projectors with EVOXR's. Direct swap and CBI bulbs.

Also, i am not 100% sure what CBIs are or where best to get them if I went the “easy” route? Can someone point me in the right direction - and maybe to a description or video of how to install? I may just have a mechanic do it if it’s complicated.

Finally, can you explain “bake the lights open” and what the “projectors” are? Please forgive my ignorance.

Thanks kindly to all. BN

eyecandynsx 12-14-2017 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by BigNoggin (Post 5579247)
Also, i am not 100% sure what CBIs are or where best to get them if I went the “easy” route? Can someone point me in the right direction - and maybe to a description or video of how to install? I may just have a mechanic do it if it’s complicated.

Finally, can you explain “bake the lights open” and what the “projectors” are? Please forgive my ignorance.

Thanks kindly to all. BN

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/hi...66340-cbi.html

Thats if you just want to replace your bulbs.

"Retrofitting" is what its called when you open up your headlights and either upgrade the projector (the part where your bulb fits into and projects the light, hence the name) or install a projector in a halogen based headlight. You put your headlight in an oven for so many minutes and a certain temp to warm up the sealant and then you pry apart the clear lense from the rest of the housing. Then you can upgrade the projector, in the case of these headlights, the EVOXR projector will bolt right up and can be found on the same website I linked above.

Google F150 retrofit and also search on here. Many have done it.

elricfate 12-14-2017 09:53 AM

This thread needs to walk a calm path. If you insult other members and nationalities, you're in for a bad time. And for those who like to egg it on, just ignore it instead and your life will be easier.

Now get back to the topic at hand and don't keep dirtying up the thread with useless bigotry.

yanki01 12-14-2017 09:56 AM

I'm about to retrofit my headlights with C-bar switchbacks probably next weekend. i got all the parts needed during black friday but haven't had the time. swapping out OEM projectors for EvoX-R 2.0 but for now will be leaving the stock bulbs since they fit. will probably get some new ones soon.

Tothemax 12-15-2017 10:50 AM

So I took a long trip to WA yesterday. Left at 0300 in the dark. Low beams along with fog lights put a good amount of light in front of the truck. High beams are useless.

I was having to kick my light bar on for areas where I needed High beam light.

If I went with a different LED bulb, would I have similar results?

mass-hole 12-15-2017 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Tothemax (Post 5582477)
So I took a long trip to WA yesterday. Left at 0300 in the dark. Low beams along with fog lights put a good amount of light in front of the truck. High beams are useless.

I was having to kick my light bar on for areas where I needed High beam light.

If I went with a different LED bulb, would I have similar results?

I mean the issue probably isnt the light output of the bulbs, but where the reflectors send that light. Thats where a good set of bi-xenons will kick the crap out of replacement bulbs.

Find a set of cheap ebay headlight housings and retrofit bi-xenons into those. Then you dont have to worry about damaging your stock housing and can swap em back if you ever need to. This is what I did with my jeep. I got a cheap set of $45 Chinese knockoff headlights since I didnt care about the performance of the housings themselves.

Tothemax 12-15-2017 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by mass-hole (Post 5582489)
I mean the issue probably isnt the light output of the bulbs, but where the reflectors send that light. Thats where a good set of bi-xenons will kick the crap out of replacement bulbs.

Find a set of cheap ebay headlight housings and retrofit bi-xenons into those. Then you dont have to worry about damaging your stock housing and can swap em back if you ever need to. This is what I did with my jeep. I got a cheap set of $45 Chinese knockoff headlights since I didnt care about the performance of the housings themselves.

Okay. I have a extra pair of headlights housings. Mind helping posting a link to ebay with what would work with my headlights?

yanki01 12-15-2017 03:21 PM

I don't ever recommend ebay headlights but these seem about as OEM look as they can get. I remember seeing a thread on here about people buying these so i know it's on here somewhere. they look fairly easy to retro a good set of actual HID projectors. obviously you'll need ballast, bulbs, projectors and a relay but without using your own OEM set - these seem easy to use.

the 2013-2014 OEM HID projectors can direct bolt in EvoX-R HID projectors so i would assume these can be an easy swap as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Projector-S...RaAlvy&vxp=mtr

Nongmin 12-15-2017 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by yanki01 (Post 5582876)
I don't ever recommend ebay headlights but these seem about as OEM look as they can get. I remember seeing a thread on here about people buying these so i know it's on here somewhere. they look fairly easy to retro a good set of actual HID projectors. obviously you'll need ballast, bulbs, projectors and a relay but without using your own OEM set - these seem easy to use.

the 2013-2014 OEM HID projectors can direct bolt in EvoX-R HID projectors so i would assume these can be an easy swap as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Projector-S...RaAlvy&vxp=mtr

I wonder how well these halogen projectors would work with a decent halogen bulb? I have halogen projectors on my '17 Escape and they really don't do too bad of a job. Not LED, not HID, but a good halogen projector and much better than the halogen reflectors in my F-150 (which suck big time). And, not as costly as a full blown HID setup.

yanki01 12-15-2017 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Nongmin (Post 5582954)
I wonder how well these halogen projectors would work with a decent halogen bulb? I have halogen projectors on my '17 Escape and they really don't do too bad of a job. Not LED, not HID, but a good halogen projector and much better than the halogen reflectors in my F-150 (which suck big time). And, not as costly as a full blown HID setup.

indeed - it's worth a shot. the listing does have free 60 days return and free return shipping. so unless you like them - keep them. if not you're not losing out at least.

fseries54303 12-15-2017 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by yanki01 (Post 5582876)
I don't ever recommend ebay headlights but these seem about as OEM look as they can get. I remember seeing a thread on here about people buying these so i know it's on here somewhere. they look fairly easy to retro a good set of actual HID projectors. obviously you'll need ballast, bulbs, projectors and a relay but without using your own OEM set - these seem easy to use.

the 2013-2014 OEM HID projectors can direct bolt in EvoX-R HID projectors so i would assume these can be an easy swap as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Projector-S...RaAlvy&vxp=mtr


Here's the link to the thread. I bought a set and put an HID kit in mine. Output is far better than stock halogen lights. Other people in the thread put halogen bulbs in these and they weren't bad.


https://www.f150forum.com/f38/new-fa...lights-377231/

GrasslandHVAC 12-16-2017 07:21 PM

Is there a halogen bulb threat that doesnt devolve into people recommending opening up halogen reflector housings and hacking HID components into them?

eyecandynsx 12-16-2017 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by GrasslandHVAC (Post 5584113)
Is there a halogen bulb threat that doesnt devolve into people recommending opening up halogen reflector housings and hacking HID components into them?

All the halogen info you need...
https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...-halogen-bulbs

Tothemax 12-23-2017 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by fseries54303 (Post 5583161)
Here's the link to the thread. I bought a set and put an HID kit in mine. Output is far better than stock halogen lights. Other people in the thread put halogen bulbs in these and they weren't bad.


https://www.f150forum.com/f38/new-fa...lights-377231/

I was kicking around on ebay and found these. Wonder why they are 100$ cheaper than the others?? I think they read they have a little bit better warranty..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/301892627162?

Also, my existing LED light bulbs can be used in these, correct?

fseries54303 12-23-2017 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Tothemax (Post 5592102)
I was kicking around on ebay and found these. Wonder why they are 100$ cheaper than the others?? I think they read they have a little bit better warranty..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/301892627162?

Also, my existing LED light bulbs can be used in these, correct?

There's tons of aftermarket companies making these. Quality is always a concern. I had to run a bead of silicone around mine, since they had a slight leak. Wouldn't hurt to do to those also if you decided to get them. Not too keen about the chrome ring around the projectors though. If your LED bulbs are an H1, they'll be plug and play. Standard H13 would not fit.

Tothemax 12-23-2017 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by fseries54303 (Post 5592113)
There's tons of aftermarket companies making these. Quality is always a concern. I had to run a bead of silicone around mine, since they had a slight leak. Wouldn't hurt to do to those also if you decided to get them. Not too keen about the chrome ring around the projectors though. If your LED bulbs are an H1, they'll be plug and play. Standard H13 would not fit.

Copy. I noticed those things as well. My led bulbs I bought are H13.

I don't mind dropping the coin on the nicer ones, just ran into those and they caught my attention.

fseries54303 12-23-2017 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tothemax (Post 5592132)
Copy. I noticed those things as well. My led bulbs I bought are H13.

I don't mind dropping the coin on the nicer ones, just ran into those and they caught my attention.

If you wanted a better setup, get those cheaper ones and then get a set of evox-r v2 projectors and some d2s bulbs (along with the ballasts and wiring). Those are nearly a direct drop in for those housings, if you're comfortable opening up the housings. You'd have a really nice set of headlights for around $450. I'm planning on doing that once spring arrives. Too freaking cold out to do it anytime soon!

Tothemax 12-23-2017 04:24 PM

I already dropped some money into my current setup. I like the look of the housings and I like the lights on low beam but the Highs are piss poor.

I was hoping to find a projector that I could use the Led bulbs in. I thought that is what someone suggested.

SVTRaptor 12-24-2017 07:49 AM

putting my led bulbs from 4x4truckLEDS in today. will report back on performance. one more day left on their 20% off xmas sale
https://www.4x4truckleds.com/
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...55eee1a53e.jpg

ibcop 12-24-2017 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by SVTRaptor (Post 5592647)
putting my led bulbs from 4x4truckLEDS in today. will report back on performance. one more day left on their 20% off xmas sale
https://www.4x4truckleds.com/
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...55eee1a53e.jpg

I have the same and pretty impressed with them.

Shadetree43 12-24-2017 04:18 PM

I got the XHP H13s from 4x4truckleds on their Black Friday sale. I'm also very impressed with them. Had a couple nights of rain recently and they did well for me on dark and light colored pavement. I did have to adjust them down a bit to meet my adjustment marks per owners manual. No one has flashed me as yet & I can see way better than the OEM H13s.

User 51421 12-24-2017 05:29 PM

if you cant find a set of oem's i grabbed a set of oem replicas with a 55w hid and the brightness is much better then stock and if you shim the bulbs there will be no glair

Tothemax 12-24-2017 05:51 PM

Why do the projector lens not fit the h13?

User 51421 12-24-2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Tothemax (Post 5593157)
Why do the projector lens not fit the h13?

the oem projector uses a bulb that isnt even close to the same style bulb as the H13. HID's use a special bulb called a D2S that requires a ballast to boost voltage to the bulb. they are designed specifically for projector applications. also they do not have a HI and low mode on the bulb as it is a single filament and instead relies on the use of a shield that retracts when the hi beam is triggered. feel free to look up videos on you tube as they explain the differences better then i can.

fseries54303 12-24-2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Tothemax (Post 5593157)
Why do the projector lens not fit the h13?

Because a true projector is designed for the D series bulb. (d2s, d3s, etc). Most of the generic aftermarket projectors are cheaper to make with a rebased H series H1, H7, etc bulb. Yeah it doesn't make sense either.

Tothemax 12-24-2017 06:25 PM

Okay. So if I go with a projector style, like on ebay, I cannot use the led bulbs I currently have.

fseries54303 12-24-2017 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Tothemax (Post 5593183)
Okay. So if I go with a projector style, like on ebay, I cannot use the led bulbs I currently have.

Correct

Spiky 12-24-2017 07:48 PM

Saw one of our gen with LEDs today. The left (driver) fog was blinding me, so was the left headlight. The right fog appeared to be a little off in output somehow, perhaps aimed wrong. The right headlight was burned out.

BTW, it was blinding me from about 4 lanes to my left, across a large highway intersection. All in all, I'd call it a complete fail. His wheels looked nice.

I say OEM HIDs are the way to go for our gen. They're expensive. Yep.

Tothemax 12-26-2017 06:07 PM

Well since my current bulbs wont fit I will be starting over from scratch. Wonder if I can sell what I got now for what I have in it....

I'd be into these projectors for 240. Then tack on whatever for 2 bulbs. LED again or halogen...

SVTRaptor 12-26-2017 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by SVTRaptor (Post 5592647)
putting my led bulbs from 4x4truckLEDS in today. will report back on performance. one more day left on their 20% off xmas sale
https://www.4x4truckleds.com/
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...55eee1a53e.jpg

so far worth the investment. the looks alone make them worth it, but the light output is great. they match my led fogs perfectly. i did get flashed once tonight so i might have to aim them down a bit, but i did have my non-dot fogs on at the time so that may have been too much. i pretty much ran my fogs at night with the halogens and never got flashed
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...97e1b4f00d.jpg

Chad Walker 12-26-2017 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by SVTRaptor (Post 5594767)
so far worth the investment. the looks alone make them worth it, but the light output is great. they match my led fogs perfectly. i did get flashed once tonight so i might have to aim them down a bit, but i did have my non-dot fogs on at the time so that may have been too much. i pretty much ran my fogs at night with the halogens and never got flashed
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...97e1b4f00d.jpg

If you have LED bulbs in the stock housings it is most likely your fogs. They will throw tons of glare.


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