I have a 5.0 with 5 star tune. test drove a Ecoboost today!
#21
Originally Posted by steelhauler
But I tried this once with nmy EB and at a VERY low rpm the tires spun. I actually looked around to see who was doing that until my wife asked me what the hell I was doing and if I was 16... If I was 16 - would have been cool but being in my 40s with wife and 3 kids in truck - just embarassing.
haha. I can see the kids now" dad, dad, do it again!!" as you get the evil eye from the wifey.
haha. I can see the kids now" dad, dad, do it again!!" as you get the evil eye from the wifey.
#22
Senior Member
Keep the ecoboost below 2000 rpm on launch. Target 1700 for most tires. Screw configuration helps with traction. I have the FX4 with the 2wdr diff locker modification and use that for max traction. Leave the traction control on. Every test I see with trucks get better times with TC on.
The 5.0 feels perkier to drive, until you learn how to use that partial throttle low rpm torque surge.
The 5.0 feels perkier to drive, until you learn how to use that partial throttle low rpm torque surge.
Last edited by dcfluid; 09-24-2011 at 11:02 AM.
#23
Originally Posted by dcfluid
Keep the ecoboost below 2000 rpm on launch. Target 1700 for most tires. Screw configuration helps with traction. I have the FX4 with the 2wdr diff locker modification and use that for max traction. Leave the traction control on. Every test I see with trucks get better times with TC on.
The 5.0 feels perkier to drive, until you learn how to use that partial throttle low rpm torque surge.
The 5.0 feels perkier to drive, until you learn how to use that partial throttle low rpm torque surge.
#24
Senior Member
I don't race but took info from posters who do and tested it out on my own. Anything 2000 and above on launch is two much and would need slicks on good asphalt.
The diff locker is a big help as she lights up pretty easy even with one wheel spin control and traction control. It stops that 1/2 second slippage it takes for the computer to control full throttle wheel spin.
I have no idea about launching a 5.0.
Perhaps some 1/4 mile runners could give us some 0-60ft times and their hints.
The diff locker is a big help as she lights up pretty easy even with one wheel spin control and traction control. It stops that 1/2 second slippage it takes for the computer to control full throttle wheel spin.
I have no idea about launching a 5.0.
Perhaps some 1/4 mile runners could give us some 0-60ft times and their hints.
#25
Originally Posted by Gdwhite
If you bought an f150 to go fast you are doing it wrong.
When I built my first pony I blew the 5sd, and then the rearend. Then I had problems with body flex (t top car). It's just more economical to play with a truck.
If I was building a weekend racer to be trailered to the track, it wouldn't be a truck. But to have fun with something I drive to work and take to homedepot for a bag of concrete. I'll play with my truck. I also like the look on the guy driving the ricer wit the turbo muffler that sounds like a garden tractor cutting a field at 110 mph. When I pull next to him a 75 chirp the tires on the down shift and pull away like he is standing still.
#26
I don't race much anymore. Just go to the track with a friend that still does. A couple times a year. It fun to participate and run the truck to see exactly what makes the difference. There are so many variables just driving a straight line, its mind boggling. And you can't trust your *** to be accurate on what was the better run. That's why you need the traps. You get all the data you need.
#27
These numbers are from the Motor Trend full line test:
F150 EB: 316 rwhp, 347 ft-lb
F150 5.0: 286 rwhp, 287 ft-lb
PUT.com had the EB at a 17 hp and 75 ft-lb advantage.
These numbers are from 5 Star's website:
5.0 stock: 271 rwhp
5.0 w/93 octane tune: 291 rwhp
So, if the EB has a 20-30 rwhp advantage base case, and the tune picks up 20 rwhp on the 5.0, how could the tuned 5.0 possibly be "a lot faster than a stock ecoboost"?
F150 EB: 316 rwhp, 347 ft-lb
F150 5.0: 286 rwhp, 287 ft-lb
PUT.com had the EB at a 17 hp and 75 ft-lb advantage.
These numbers are from 5 Star's website:
5.0 stock: 271 rwhp
5.0 w/93 octane tune: 291 rwhp
So, if the EB has a 20-30 rwhp advantage base case, and the tune picks up 20 rwhp on the 5.0, how could the tuned 5.0 possibly be "a lot faster than a stock ecoboost"?
#28
I don't race but took info from posters who do and tested it out on my own. Anything 2000 and above on launch is two much and would need slicks on good asphalt.
The diff locker is a big help as she lights up pretty easy even with one wheel spin control and traction control. It stops that 1/2 second slippage it takes for the computer to control full throttle wheel spin.
I have no idea about launching a 5.0.
Perhaps some 1/4 mile runners could give us some 0-60ft times and their hints.
The diff locker is a big help as she lights up pretty easy even with one wheel spin control and traction control. It stops that 1/2 second slippage it takes for the computer to control full throttle wheel spin.
I have no idea about launching a 5.0.
Perhaps some 1/4 mile runners could give us some 0-60ft times and their hints.
I raced mine against some chevys (won every race, they thought ahh its just a Ford its slow). There were no timeslips, just somewhere to race off the streets. Anyways traction control on or else I would just spin them. Launch at 1800-2000 rpm and the tires would bark but grip. The guys I raced all did burnouts and tried to launch way too high and spun off the line. You might be able to do higher launch with a 4x4.
#30
Senior Member
In the 2 comparisons where both engines were run on the same dyno in the same conditions, the EB beat the 5.0 by 17-30 rwhp. The 5.0 gained 20 rwhp when tuned. Therefore, a tuned 5.0 will not be "a lot faster than an EB".
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