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Old 09-29-2012, 08:26 PM
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I'm tired of the people getting good mileage telling me I don't know how to drive . Put up or shut up.

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Originally Posted by elbo
Your absolutely correct, but I should have stated my statement in a better way. This truck uses a ton of fuel while idling, I think it as almost as much as it does as some speeds and gearing. It acts like it has a load on it more so than most vehicles I have driven. Some one with a scan gauge could probably check for what the fuel flow on these is at idle. ..
I was actually surprised how much better my EB does at idle when compared to my old 5.7 Tundra and 5.4SC Harley truck. I checked all three using a scangauge.
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Originally Posted by jknight
I'm tired of the people getting good mileage telling me I don't know how to drive . Put up or shut up.

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When I first started trying to drive more efficiently using a scangauge, I thought I knew how to do it. But after several years of experimenting, I now know that my initial idea of "efficient driving" was all wrong. No one is infallible.

Using what I learned (not what I thought I knew), I was able to achieve nearly 24 mpg with a loaded EB on a 2400 mile trip using mostly horse-**** gas (87 octane E10).

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Just so you know, jknight, sterlingone bought his current truck in western PA.

Geez....how in the world did you remember that from two months ago?? Nice memory you have there!!
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Originally Posted by jknight
I'm tired of the people getting good mileage telling me I don't know how to drive . Put up or shut up.

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THERE you go! I've got my flame suit pants on and am hunting for the shirt.....took a while for me to need it though!
Just remember this .....EVERY time you hit the brakes you are generating lower MPG.....That heat that is generated when your brakes get hot? That's the energy that is wasted from your current tank of gas.......and it doubles the loss to accelerate back to speed.....not that I am telling you how to drive though!!!!
All this said, I have noticed that with the EB, the mpg drops a lot with only a little application of the gas. You are trying to move over 6,000 pounds with only 213 cubic inches, so I think that is why stop and go stuff just kills the EB MPG.....
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I think driving style does make a difference, but it's a stretch to see where driving styles differ so much that when using what each driver considers to be their best style for MPG, one has 150% - 200% the MPG through driving style alone.

It would seem to me that there must be a mechanical issue for some of these folks getting poor MPG. Like dragging brakes, poor 4 wheel alignment, injector fouling, improperly calibrated odometer, aftermarket wheels and/or tires, etc...

Brings up a question, does anybody know for sure what affect windows up or windows down has MPG of these trucks? Usually windows down means worse MPG, on our trucks how much worse?
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Originally Posted by JerryC
I think driving style does make a difference, but it's a stretch to see where driving styles differ so much that when using what each driver considers to be their best style for MPG, one has 150% - 200% the MPG through driving style alone.

It would seem to me that there must be a mechanical issue for some of these folks getting poor MPG. Like dragging brakes, poor 4 wheel alignment, injector fouling, improperly calibrated odometer, aftermarket wheels and/or tires, etc...

Brings up a question, does anybody know for sure what affect windows up or windows down has MPG of these trucks? Usually windows down means worse MPG, on our trucks how much worse?
I've heard that windows down is about the same amount of drag as running the A/C......right around 8 to 10%. Don't have the source for this info though.
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I've heard that windows down is about the same amount of drag as running the A/C......right around 8 to 10%. Don't have the source for this info though.
Windows up is always better, but if it is a/c versus open windows, then below 45mph you are better with windows open, above 45mph air conditioning.

I pay attention to lights ahead to try not to have to use the brakes as much. I also run a little higher pressure on the tires.
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Just for grins I'm going to try the advice from this website for one full tankful to see if it makes a difference. I *might* accelerate a little hard sometimes I suppose... ROFL!

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-e...el-economy.htm
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Originally Posted by sterlingone
.....EVERY time you hit the brakes you are generating lower MPG.....That heat that is generated when your brakes get hot? That's the energy that is wasted from your current tank of gas.......
Bingo!!! It takes a certain amount of energy (gasoline) to accelerate 6000 lb to 60 mph, whether you do it in 6 seconds or 60 seconds. Sure, there are minor differences in BSFC as a function of rate, but there are overriding physics at play. None of the energy is wasted until you touch the brake pedal. At that moment, the kinetic energy, that you bought and paid for in gas, is turned into heat and released to atmosphere. If you coast, you are getting, literally, infinite mpg's thanks to Deceleration Fuel Cut Off (DFCO) that has been used for decades now.

There are many ways to maximize coasting, but I won't get into that unless requested.
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