High end speaker replacement
12-27-2014, 08:21 PM
#12
Senior Member
They all make budget, mid grade, and high end. You get what you pay for with audio equipment. Being new to car audio, something tells me he won't be wanting to pay thousands for competition quality speakers.
12-27-2014, 08:28 PM
#13
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...JBL-P660C.html
This is what I'll be using. They have good reviews on the audio site i frequent, and can really boogie with some power behind them. Ill be pushing around 125w per side from a nice old school (late 90s) MTX blue thunder amp. I'll be using a matching amp bridged to run an MTX thunder 7000 10 that I bought new in 1998 or 1999. Yes, I have an affinity for old school equipment lol
This is what I'll be using. They have good reviews on the audio site i frequent, and can really boogie with some power behind them. Ill be pushing around 125w per side from a nice old school (late 90s) MTX blue thunder amp. I'll be using a matching amp bridged to run an MTX thunder 7000 10 that I bought new in 1998 or 1999. Yes, I have an affinity for old school equipment lol
12-27-2014, 09:31 PM
#14
Anyone have any suggestions? This is way out of my realm of expertise. I need something with extremely crisp, clear sound and do not need the bass of a 17 year old high school kid. I have the sony sub and MFT in my 2014 KR. Hopefully you audio gurus out there can help me out. Every time i play music on the Bose system in my house I get pissed that the sound quality in my truck sucks *****. Thanks.
The problem with going "Truly High End" is you will quickly find yourself chasing the Domino Effect in that by adding a proper set of Front End speakers you will now also need to add an equally proper amplifier to power them. In addition, you will also need to be prepared to do some work on your door panels where you will be mounting these speakers. Trust me when I say that you CAN NOT expect any speaker let alone a properly powered "High End" speaker to perform as expected while residing in a plastic door panel enclosure. If you attach a speaker to a plastic door panel and call it a day you will be pissing away at least 75% of your amplifier power and hear nothing by muddy Midbass due to all the resonance it will generate.
To do it right you'll need to first Dynamat the whole mounting surface of the door as well as the inside face of the outer door skin. Afterwards you will then need to build an MDF Ring that your speaker will mount to. You will then securely bolt the MDF Ring to the door frame.
After all this is done the sad part is, you've only just begun to crack open this can of worms. If it were me (coming from past experience), I would just grab whatever run of the mill speaker is on sale at Crutchfield that fits in the hole and call it a day. It will no doubt still sound better then what’s in there now and you can just use the factory amp.
A much better investment would be to expand your home stereo.
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12-27-2014, 09:56 PM
#15
The biggest question you'll need to answer first is....How much are you willing to spend?
The problem with going "Truly High End" is you will quickly find yourself chasing the Domino Effect in that by adding a proper set of Front End speakers you will now also need to add an equally proper amplifier to power them. In addition, you will also need to be prepared to do some work on your door panels where you will be mounting these speakers. Trust me when I say that you CAN NOT expect any speaker let alone a properly powered "High End" speaker to perform as expected while residing in a plastic door panel enclosure. If you attach a speaker to a plastic door panel and call it a day you will be pissing away at least 75% of your amplifier power and hear nothing by muddy Midbass due to all the resonance it will generate.
To do it right you'll need to first Dynamat the whole mounting surface of the door as well as the inside face of the outer door skin. Afterwards you will then need to build an MDF Ring that your speaker will mount to. You will then securely bolt the MDF Ring to the door frame.
After all this is done the sad part is, you've only just begun to crack open this can of worms. If it were me (coming from past experience), I would just grab whatever run of the mill speaker is on sale at Crutchfield that fits in the hole and call it a day. It will no doubt still sound better then what’s in there now and you can just use the factory amp.
A much better investment would be to expand your home stereo.
The problem with going "Truly High End" is you will quickly find yourself chasing the Domino Effect in that by adding a proper set of Front End speakers you will now also need to add an equally proper amplifier to power them. In addition, you will also need to be prepared to do some work on your door panels where you will be mounting these speakers. Trust me when I say that you CAN NOT expect any speaker let alone a properly powered "High End" speaker to perform as expected while residing in a plastic door panel enclosure. If you attach a speaker to a plastic door panel and call it a day you will be pissing away at least 75% of your amplifier power and hear nothing by muddy Midbass due to all the resonance it will generate.
To do it right you'll need to first Dynamat the whole mounting surface of the door as well as the inside face of the outer door skin. Afterwards you will then need to build an MDF Ring that your speaker will mount to. You will then securely bolt the MDF Ring to the door frame.
After all this is done the sad part is, you've only just begun to crack open this can of worms. If it were me (coming from past experience), I would just grab whatever run of the mill speaker is on sale at Crutchfield that fits in the hole and call it a day. It will no doubt still sound better then what’s in there now and you can just use the factory amp.
A much better investment would be to expand your home stereo.
12-27-2014, 09:56 PM
#16
Also when properly mounting these speakers in our 09+ trucks, they don't mount to plastic. It's right on metal. Good advice on dynamatting the doors, although the whole truck isn't a bad idea either for more than just sound quality from the speakers. If you get the proper size speakers, you won't need to fabricate your own speaker mounting rings.
Last edited by AricsFX; 12-27-2014 at 09:59 PM.
12-27-2014, 09:57 PM
#17
I'm actually wondering if the drivers are the weak link in the factory sony system? If thats the case, one might be better off replacing the speakers with raw drivers instead of buying automotive speakers or components. Unfortunately I dont have a sony system to experiment with because it might be a fun little project
12-27-2014, 09:57 PM
#18
LONE STAR
Great feedback. I know I had to have my doors reinforced and Dynamat was used extensively in the doors when the Hertz speakers were installed. The added benefit is that it seems to have really dampened the door and cab from external noise.
The biggest question you'll need to answer first is....How much are you willing to spend?
The problem with going "Truly High End" is you will quickly find yourself chasing the Domino Effect in that by adding a proper set of Front End speakers you will now also need to add an equally proper amplifier to power them. In addition, you will also need to be prepared to do some work on your door panels where you will be mounting these speakers. Trust me when I say that you CAN NOT expect any speaker let alone a properly powered "High End" speaker to perform as expected while residing in a plastic door panel enclosure. If you attach a speaker to a plastic door panel and call it a day you will be pissing away at least 75% of your amplifier power and hear nothing by muddy Midbass due to all the resonance it will generate.
To do it right you'll need to first Dynamat the whole mounting surface of the door as well as the inside face of the outer door skin. Afterwards you will then need to build an MDF Ring that your speaker will mount to. You will then securely bolt the MDF Ring to the door frame.
After all this is done the sad part is, you've only just begun to crack open this can of worms. If it were me (coming from past experience), I would just grab whatever run of the mill speaker is on sale at Crutchfield that fits in the hole and call it a day. It will no doubt still sound better then what’s in there now and you can just use the factory amp.
A much better investment would be to expand your home stereo.
The problem with going "Truly High End" is you will quickly find yourself chasing the Domino Effect in that by adding a proper set of Front End speakers you will now also need to add an equally proper amplifier to power them. In addition, you will also need to be prepared to do some work on your door panels where you will be mounting these speakers. Trust me when I say that you CAN NOT expect any speaker let alone a properly powered "High End" speaker to perform as expected while residing in a plastic door panel enclosure. If you attach a speaker to a plastic door panel and call it a day you will be pissing away at least 75% of your amplifier power and hear nothing by muddy Midbass due to all the resonance it will generate.
To do it right you'll need to first Dynamat the whole mounting surface of the door as well as the inside face of the outer door skin. Afterwards you will then need to build an MDF Ring that your speaker will mount to. You will then securely bolt the MDF Ring to the door frame.
After all this is done the sad part is, you've only just begun to crack open this can of worms. If it were me (coming from past experience), I would just grab whatever run of the mill speaker is on sale at Crutchfield that fits in the hole and call it a day. It will no doubt still sound better then what’s in there now and you can just use the factory amp.
A much better investment would be to expand your home stereo.
12-27-2014, 10:00 PM
#19
When were focals or JLs thousands?! Not really new to car audio myself, polk mtx etc don't make high end stuff. I'll be snagging focal kevlars or JL C5 components to complement my JL 10w3v3s. Like a few others have said, you get what you pay for! Being that our trucks are enclosed, you will notice a huge difference in quality vs lower grade speakers.