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Old 07-18-2014, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Limited F150
That is not true. f150 projectors will never perform like a bimmer. The projector is a inferior projector.
Yes and no...sure being closer to the ground helps. However, the F150 OEM HIDs can perform like BMW, Acura, Audi, etc with a projector swap as mentioned previously.
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Originally Posted by il_duce
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EvoX-R Projector, bulb, and ballast upgrade:



Pretty much speaks for itself. It is the best upgrade you can do to the OEM HIDs for performance.
I'm no projector headlight expert and do not care to be but one thing I do understand is photography and to me these two pics do not tell much of a story other than they were taken at different times. I am sure the difference is real but the fact the 2nd pic is taken with much less light confuses things in my mind. What s most interesting to me is how much wider the 2nd picture light path is. I suppose it could be how the camera is taking the exposure reading too. It's funny the 2nd pic looks like somethings on fire in the background.

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Originally Posted by skupko9680

I'm no projector headlight expert and do not care to be but one thing I do understand is photography and to me these two pics do not tell much of a story other than they were taken at different times. I am sure the difference is real but the fact the 2nd pic is taken with much less light confuses things in my mind. What s most interesting to me is how much wider the 2nd picture light path is. I suppose it could be how the camera is taking the exposure reading too. It's funny the 2nd pic looks like somethings on fire in the background.
Try these then.
Same road. Same time of night...roughly 9:30pm here in VA. This is EvoX-R with 50w ballast and Nightbreaker bulbs. Same iPhone camera with HDR on.

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You should be able to see the lower/outer cutoff with the HIDs that the EvoX-R throws light towards. The EvoX-R does a better job of distributing this light.
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Or for $300 put on a light bar, that way you will have tonnes of light.
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Originally Posted by skupko9680

I'm no projector headlight expert and do not care to be but one thing I do understand is photography and to me these two pics do not tell much of a story other than they were taken at different times. I am sure the difference is real but the fact the 2nd pic is taken with much less light confuses things in my mind. What s most interesting to me is how much wider the 2nd picture light path is. I suppose it could be how the camera is taking the exposure reading too. It's funny the 2nd pic looks like somethings on fire in the background.
Cool story.
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Originally Posted by MCDavis
Try these then.
Same road. Same time of night...roughly 9:30pm here in VA. This is EvoX-R with 50w ballast and Nightbreaker bulbs. Same iPhone camera with HDR on.

OEM HIDs



EvoX-R



You should be able to see the lower/outer cutoff with the HIDs that the EvoX-R throws light towards. The EvoX-R does a better job of distributing this light.
How much was the upgrade to get that little bit of extra light out to the sides? I'm guessing a whole lot more than it's worth judging those two pics, I figured they would also send light a lot farther down the road and it appears they are no better than OEM in that respect.

Seems like turning on the fog lights would take care of that little bit of side light.

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By the looks of the two, I think he's got them mislabeled.
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Originally Posted by Fissues
By the looks of the two, I think he's got them mislabeled.
I was thinking the same thing but even so, from the prices I have seen for the upgraded projectors and lamps there is no where near enough difference to justify the cost.

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Originally Posted by Fissues
By the looks of the two, I think he's got them mislabeled.
They're not! You can tell its the oem projector cause the Top pic has the double Halo to the Outer portion of the light output!
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Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
How much was the upgrade to get that little bit of extra light out to the sides? I'm guessing a whole lot more than it's worth judging those two pics, I figured they would also send light a lot farther down the road and it appears they are no better than OEM in that respect.
None of the pictures do these absolute justice. The OEM's are 35w ballasts and I've gone with 50w ballasts. The dispersion of light is much more even as compared to the OEMs also. Its my money however, so justification doesn't matter. But thanks.

Also, as for the "farther down the road"...that's impossible if the headlights are properly aimed. The cutoff won't allow for additional projection in length if you have them aimed properly. The intensity of the upgrade is drastically increased and the camera just cannot pick it up.

Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
Seems like turning on the fog lights would take care of that little bit of side light.
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Nope, the fogs don't throw that light down and out. I'm on my second set of halogens (45w over the 40w stocks) and even tried Putco LEDs before the retrofit. None of those options filled that void in the ditches.

Originally Posted by Fissues
By the looks of the two, I think he's got them mislabeled.
Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
I was thinking the same thing
See below.

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They're not! You can tell its the oem projector cause the Top pic has the double Halo to the Outer portion of the light output!
Thanks Todd, much appreciate the input.

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