Fuel Mileage with A/T Tires
#11
Member
I do not like my Cooper AT3's. 275-65-18 but I think they are very heavy tires and a hit to my mpg. Dry and wet traction sucks. I hope they are good in snow. What little mud they have been in they sucked also. I want dedicated hwy tires and dedicated winter tires but having trouble finding XL steel wheels for the winters.
#12
Member
Thread Starter
As a follow-up to the OP, I think the answer to your question depends on whether your current Duratracs are standard load or LT tires. If they are LT and you go back with the same size as you stated, I don’t think you are going to see an appreciable difference. If by chance your Duratracs are a SL tire and you go to an LT tire (which all the BFG KOs are) you may see a hit. On the flip side, if you’re running LT Duratracs and swap to a standard load tire, you may see a slight improvement though I wouldn’t expect it to be huge. That would require going with something other than the KOs though.
M+S 275/65 R18
Last edited by bsiegel; 12-13-2018 at 06:47 AM.
#13
P stands for passenger and denotes a standard load tire. LT stands for light truck and denotes a heavier ply tire with a load rating above standard. This is a bit confusing as you might think “light truck...sounds like what I have so I need those”. But the reality is that 95% of new half ton trucks come with P tires from the factory and the majority of owners never need anything else. If you haul a heavy payload regularly or tow something sizeable frequently then LT tires might be for you. The heavier ply and increased weight rating might make your truck feel more firm and planted when hauling or towing and you theoretically have less chance of a tire failure event with a heavy load. The trade off is that the ride is typically a little firmer all the time. That’s not to say it’s harsh. Some people like the firm ride an LT tire provides. Personally, I haul the trash, bikes, furniture, and might pull a small trailer with a load of mulch or stone once a year. I’d never put LT tires on my truck for my uses. If you pull a commercial landscaping trailer, large boat, camper, or car hauler, then LT tires would probably be beneficial.
M+S means the tire meets a certification spec for mud and snow. Hope this helps.
#14
Senior Member
Don't confuse "Standard P" with "Standard load LT".
P for passenger tire: 44psi
"Standard load" LT (aka C or D load): 50psi
"XL load" LT rated E: 80psi
Standard load LTs can often have a lower load rating than the same P tire. Kinda like they provide most of the problems of an E-rated LT tire and almost none of the benefits.
P for passenger tire: 44psi
"Standard load" LT (aka C or D load): 50psi
"XL load" LT rated E: 80psi
Standard load LTs can often have a lower load rating than the same P tire. Kinda like they provide most of the problems of an E-rated LT tire and almost none of the benefits.
#16
^^^^. That’s good info. I was looking at the Duratracs on GY’s site and they are offered in SL (P), C, and E. I noticed that the C lists a signficantly lower weight rating than the SL (P). I thought maybe it was a mistake but based on your info, it’s probably correct. I would have to ask what the benefit to the load range C tire is.
#17
Senior Member
Stiffer construction. Probably a little more stable under load, even if the load rating is a few pounds less than the P version.
Longevity. Probably has a slightly deeper tread, possibly a different rubber compound that should wear longer. Of course, that would mean less capable handling in wet or snow.
This is all general, different tires will be different.
Longevity. Probably has a slightly deeper tread, possibly a different rubber compound that should wear longer. Of course, that would mean less capable handling in wet or snow.
This is all general, different tires will be different.
#18
FlyFisher
I really like the Duratracs. I had the LT 275/70r18 (33") on my '11 FX4. Really didn't want an LT as I didn't tow or haul much at all at the time, but I wanted the Duratracs and 33" tires; LT is only offered in that size. The LT tires do tend to hold up better on rocky/ gravel roads, which I do drive on quite a bit. The ride was a little stiffer, but not too bad at all. I traded that truck in for a '14 with max tow etc and got rid of the Pirelli Scorpions before hunting season. I put on 275/60r20 SL Duratracs, even though I tow a lot more now. Now that I got my speedo and mpg calculator corrected for the larger tire size, I really am not seeing a noticeable difference in mpg efficiency.
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#19
I went from stock 32" tires to 33" LT Falken Wildpeak AT3W's. I monitor MPG very, very closely. To my surprise, I didn't notice any real impact. I'm nearly 100% city. I was 13.5mpg before, and after going to the AT, LT's, I went to 13.2mpg. I've had them for a full year - 12k miles, so the number should be pretty accurate. For reference, this is with 3.31" gearing (the worst you can get for pure city driving.) I'm also kind of high mileage (2014 ecoboost 4x4 - 140k miles,) so a 'fresher' engine may see better mpg as well.
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