Ford's Response to NHTSA Regarding EcoBoost
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The design flaw I see with the EcoBoost cooler, is that it is realitively small, almost the same size as the cooler that was on my WRX. It's also way down low and, way in front of the motor. So there is no surrounding engine heat to help burn off condensation inside the cooler.
It seems like a better placement could have been designed, but Ford opted not to redesign the front of the F-150 to accommodated the EcoBoost in 2011, and instead just sort of Jerry-rig the cooler into the existing 2009-10 front bumper shape and design to save a few bucks.
Hopefully the 2015 design was centered around the brands bread winner EcoBoost so the problem is put to bed for good.
I'm also surprised the aftermarket hasn't come up with a better cooler design? First company that does equals massive profits.
Last edited by Pool Runner; 10-02-2013 at 01:02 PM.
#12
I too have owned previous boosted vehicles with intercoolers. 1) '05 Ram 2500 5.9 Cummins had the huge intercooler sandwiched between the hot radiator & trans cooler. 2) Had a '13 Subaru WRX, the intercooler was mounted directly over the hot engine, with a scoop drawing air from the top of the hood. Never once did I ever have an issue with condensation on either of those two vehicles.
The design flaw I see with the EcoBoost cooler, is that it is realitively small, almost the same size as the cooler that was on my WRX. It's also way down low and, way in front of the motor. So there is no surrounding engine heat to help burn off condensation inside the cooler.
It seems like a better placement could have been designed, but Ford opted not to redesign the front of the F-150 to accommodated the EcoBoost in 2011, and instead just sort of Jerry-rig the cooler into the existing 2009-10 front bumper shape and design to save a few bucks.
Hopefully the 2015 design was centered around the brands bread winner EcoBoost so the problem is put to bed for good.
I'm also surprised the aftermarket hasn't come up with a better cooler design? First company that does equals massive profits.
The design flaw I see with the EcoBoost cooler, is that it is realitively small, almost the same size as the cooler that was on my WRX. It's also way down low and, way in front of the motor. So there is no surrounding engine heat to help burn off condensation inside the cooler.
It seems like a better placement could have been designed, but Ford opted not to redesign the front of the F-150 to accommodated the EcoBoost in 2011, and instead just sort of Jerry-rig the cooler into the existing 2009-10 front bumper shape and design to save a few bucks.
Hopefully the 2015 design was centered around the brands bread winner EcoBoost so the problem is put to bed for good.
I'm also surprised the aftermarket hasn't come up with a better cooler design? First company that does equals massive profits.
What about the full race intercooler. It is a totally different design that is moved up in front of the existing radiator.
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And this was a great summary of the letter that engineermike posted on another thread (#1867 https://www.f150forum.com/f70/there-...7/#post2952992):
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I could be wrong, I have been known to be... lol.
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#16
Great post, I appreciate it, seems Ford is moving on and so will I when I choose my next truck. I can guarantee it wont have any intercooler involved with the engine. Just give me a stupid simple V8 to heck with the Fuel econ,low torque curve and all the marketing BS. Todays technology is so unreliable its sickening. I probably will still get a Super Duty V8 6.2L. I can live with what it can or cant do.
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