everettpa1

+1

Adobe2X

As far as all V8's going the way of the dinosaurs......it won't happen for a couple more years. The 5.0 is a thoroughly modern motor with great breathing and power.....and there is no sound in the world like a 5.0 with the right kind of muffler on it. I don't know if Ford's firing order makes it sound so good, but it IS better than any GM or Dodge engine......although the Hellcat's stock exhaust sounds pretty good too!

AricsFX

iTrader: (3)

Okay, so 6.4 hp per pound is not impressive from the hellcat. With the bmw M5 which is better in almost every measurable way (except horsepower) has more hp/lb. Also makes 575hp from a 4.4L v8. Gives the bmw almost 20 more horsepower per liter more than the hellcat..

So apples to apples here, hellcat not impressive.

11screw50

anyone run the numbers on the other EB variants? I dont have power/tq numbers handy for the 1.3 and 2.0 but the 2.7 numbers are significantly better than the 3.5 when broken down per the OP:

2.7l = 165ci
325hp/375lb-ft
1.97hp/ci
2.27lb-ft/ci

Kind of makes one wonder if the tune on the 2.7 is more aggressive from the factory or if there is something else that could be applied to the 3.5 (I know the block is a different material, not sure what other differences there are that if applied to the 3.5 would make it even more of a beast than it already is).

If you got the same power/tq per volume on the 3.5 as the 2.7 it would be rated at 420hp and 483lb-ft...something to think about there...(yeah, I know, you can beat that with just a tune, what we don't know yet is what you can get out of the 2.7 with a tune, maybe it is already tuned aggressively, maybe not).

Old Smoky

I just drove my BIL's 2014 Eco last weekend for a few hours. Yes, the truck is very responsive but I wasn't overly impressed compared to my 6.2. Maybe it's all about towing?

The steering seemed "light" and not as planted or firm as my 2013. I guess that's due to the electric assist?

Robob

You would also have to figure in the differences of the forced induction for your equation.
The turbo on the EB uses the compression of the motor's exhaust like an air compressor to add power and adds no additional displacement. However the S/C of the hellcat is using additional displacement of the twin screw supercharger (145cu in) as well, so you would have to add those into your figures.
Both motors are excellent modern engines and shows how far things can come in a short time when engineers are allowed to run rampant and have fun lol

Matt_RTR_FX4

Run the numbers on this one. 28.5L and makes 300 hp. I know that was a lot for the time period, but yeah we have came a long way. This things just sounds scary.


http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/fiat-s76-starts-beast-of-turin-2014-12-02

Adobe2X

I saw and heard that monster start up too. 116 mph in 1911? Not bad, but can you imagine the bore and stroke on a 4 cylinder that size? The chassis drops about for inches when they load the motor....and on first start up, are those sparks of hot metal coming outmofnthe exhaust ports?

Adobe2X

I think that in addition to having the block made out of the same stuff as the Super Duty Diesel (compacted graphite iron), the 2.7 runs a lot higher boost pressure (19 psi?) compared to the EB, which I think runs about 14.
In the future if the CGI block works well, Ford may go to the same material in the EB, and raise the boost to the same levels........that is when the 5.0 might be a goner though!........just sayin'......

cerhai

what is this hellcat, gt500, zo6, for the $ nissan gtr gets my vote
600hp
480 torque
3.8L/231.8 cubic inches = 2.58 hp per cubic inch
now that is a high performance car in the same price range as the rest sort-of. This would be my midlife crisis toy if I could afford it. high performance awd car with seating for 4