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Old 06-17-2015, 01:33 AM   #41
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Then don't. *I* am the customer. What I say goes with my vehicle. Period. If you don't like it, get another job. Welcome to the new reality...

<ain't I a stinker?:

I'm the guy working on your vehicle, if you don't like me then ask for another tech or take it somewhere else. If i'm halfway into tearing down your tranny or engine and you want it pulled go for it. Tow it out or do what ever but be prepared to be charged accordingly and all your parts will be in your box.

You need me as much as I need you sweetie

Oh wait there's more cars on the road than there is good technicians, never mind my last statement
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Old 06-17-2015, 02:39 AM   #42
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Then don't. *I* am the customer. What I say goes with my vehicle. Period. If you don't like it, get another job. Welcome to the new reality...

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Nobody is getting another job over you, get over yourself pal.

I am paranoid about leaving my vehicle at a dealer, just like others on here, mostly because I just hate them trying to talk me into extra services, thankfully I no longer have to use a dealer for oil changes starting this month, as I just moved into a house (I was in an apartment).

I still may use them because time is money and I don't always have time to be doing work that I can easily pay someone to do. I make enough to where it actually makes sense to pay someone else sometimes.

When I do/have used the dealer, I didn't want to stand over the guy working on my truck. I am a tradesman myself and quite frankly if someone wanted to stand over me and watch me work I'd be pissed off. Luckily, I don't need to beg for customers, especially ones like you!

I know that after the work is done then I can be the judge. That is all that matters.

Maybe it is because I know I can do my job well and if I need to know something I know where to ask, I like to think other people who love their job do the same.

And FYI around "here" there is no insurance to cover a customer in a shop, at least none I've ever seen, that's absurd to think there is.

What you do "going into the shop" and "watching people like hawks" is just straight up ignorant and well, if I owned a business, I'd be glad to tell you to keep on looking, you are such a small minority that your business truely DOESN'T matter.

I feel very sad for the people/businesses that put up with your ****.

Stand at the window like a normal person if you're so worried.



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Thank You [MENTION=184347]tanked_darren[/MENTION]. Finally someone who understands exactly what I'm trying to say and can say it in a calm manner.
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I don't think a person has to look over the mechanics shoulder the whole time, but the small minority of us abnormal people want to be clear with our expectations of the job being done right and not half assed. Way to many tradesman out there cutting corners. Now if that means they don't want my business well there are plenty of other people that would.

And as far as standing next to the window with the normal people...you mean the ones that wouldn't know the difference between an oil filter and an air filter.

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Then fix it yourself. If you can't handle someone else doing the work and have to supervise the job that closely... buy the equipment and just do it. I'm with Raineman here... I would kick all your sorry asses out and your heaps and tell you to go home. Not one of you preaching this would want yourself watching you and constantly bothering you in your workplace... but it's okay to do it to others.

I'm not saying no visitations nor check ups.. but just not this watch like a hawk throughout the duration mentality. I mean hell... what.. you have that much free time anytime you need work done you can go sit their and supervise it? I think the point for me of paying is allowing me to do something else. If I am there the whole time I may as well swing the wrenches in my shop at home. I am a tradesman too and do not appreciate some know it all mouth breather hanging over me or any of my employees coaching us how to do the job. It's really easy... just hand them the work and tell them to do it. It's a cheap *** Ford pickup truck. .. not a half million dollar 1 of 10 supercar. And even then this mentality is still unwarranted.
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Then fix it yourself. If you can't handle someone else doing the work and have to supervise the job that closely... buy the equipment and just do it. I'm with Raineman here... I would kick all your sorry asses out and your heaps and tell you to go home. Not one of you preaching this would want yourself watching you and constantly bothering you in your workplace... but it's okay to do it to others.

I'm not saying no visitations nor check ups.. but just not this watch like a hawk throughout the duration mentality. I mean hell... what.. you have that much free time anytime you need work done you can go sit their and supervise it? I think the point for me of paying is allowing me to do something else. If I am there the whole time I may as well swing the wrenches in my shop at home. I am a tradesman too and do not appreciate some know it all mouth breather hanging over me or any of my employees coaching us how to do the job. It's really easy... just hand them the work and tell them to do it. It's a cheap *** Ford pickup truck. .. not a half million dollar 1 of 10 supercar. And even then this mentality is still unwarranted.
If that is how YOU feel about our 50,000 plus vehicles that are 1/4 my mortgage and will never make money in 5 years as a super, then you make tooo much money compared to the 90% others her who struggle to own a truck and pay bills. Unlike you I rely on my truck day to day for the money I spent to get me to and fro. To refer to it as a cheap as Ford means you hold no values.
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If that is how YOU feel about our 50,000 plus vehicles that are 1/4 my mortgage and will never make money in 5 years as a super, then you make tooo much money compared to the 90% others her who struggle to own a truck and pay bills. Unlike you I rely on my truck day to day for the money I spent to get me to and fro. To refer to it as a cheap as Ford means you hold no values.
Lol. Hold no values....What a joke. What I value or don't is absolutely none of your concern... not to mention your financial woes I honestly couldn't care any less about. Don't bite off more than you can chew maybe... make some better life choices.... but then that's how the banks get rich isn't it. No.... This is about essentially harassing the people paid to repair these trucks. Yeah.. some of them suck at it... just like every person in any job out there. But that's life. You watch the guy that you call to do plumbing repairs too... or fix your dishwasher... where does it end? If you do all this watching when do you have time to do anything else lol.

If you hold so much stake and value and are certain you will always be screwed over on a repair..... fix the damn thing yourself.

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Actually no the insurance is not for customers! There's a sign right on the door and it states pretty much that. Maybe it's different where you're from, or maybe you are right but that's because you have to pay your own hospital bills. I don't know.

What do you do for a living? Can I come sit on your desk while you try to do what ever and spout off about whatever crosses my mind? Lets see if you get distracted, oh by the way I'm an expert at what you do so you had better do it right.

By the way your insults about me needing more experience and being a bad mechanic really hurt my feelings
-I made no "insults". If you took them that way I apologize. Just observations based on your comments. They're immature, causing many to be concerned about in who's hands might their vehicle end up to be worked on. Besides, who doesn't benefit from more experience?

-Wanna go to work with me? COOL! Bring it on! I'm retired now, but I can make a phone call or two and get access to a building under construction. How do you feel about working 100-400 feet off the street, connecting, bolting up or welding iron? That's what I did for the last 25 years of my working life (after 15 years of wrenching). And I would always be up to someone showing me a better way of climbing a column, or how make a point more easily! I have no doubt that it would have helped keep me from getting so banged up over the years... So far, I've never gotten any non-ironworker to follow me past the c. 50 ft level on a skeleton.

-Actually, any shop/business (federally) has to have insurance. It's called "Public Liability Insurance". Please note the word "Public". Similar to the "PL" part of the insurance you have to have on your motor vehicle. The insurance is not there for employees. Yes, many, if not all shops have a sign stating "Do Not Enter - Insurance Prohibits...." yada yada yada.

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You need me as much as I need you sweetie
Noooooo I don't.

Y'all are forgetting an earlier comment that I've worked both sides of the counter.

*If this thread is going to turn in to a bunch of hurt feelings and name calling, maybe the Mods should terminate it. There are ways of being civil and still express your opinions...
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Back to how this thread had actually started. Ironically, I pulled into a gas station the other day behind a smoking Q5, with a nice line of oil from the street to a puddle under her car.
I had to see what was going on with that. Seems she went to Valvoline's quick change where it was her 'sons' second day.
Well her own kid, forgot to tighten the filter after threading it a couple turns. I don't know how it didn't seize. Wasn't any oil in it and she had just come off the highway, after the guy behind her flagged her, because he was getting sprayed with oil.
After contorting my hand to get a few turns on that filter, I put two quarts in before it hit the dipstick. 5 quarts later it still wasn't full, but enough to get her home and have a little talk with that son of hers.

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What it really boils down to is that there are so many people that are tired of being taken advance of. Be it an inexperience mechanic or a restaurant waitress. Most of it as the result of attitude and or complacency. We don't get the quality service that we used to. An awfully lot of use think we know more than we really do and are afraid to admit it when we're wrong. It's a fairly simple rule of thought here. If you don't trust anyone, your unfortunately in trouble. If you do trust people in general, take your chance and roll the dice.

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