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Old 03-03-2014, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dac12046
Run things by computers your gonna have problems things ran by very little computer control less problems
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:18 PM
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All this hostility, it's like a Ford vs Dodge vs GM debate

Ultimately- Ford has the clout to develop a system from the kernel out for their vehicles. Why not?

There are positives and negatives for all. With Microsoft backing, I always worry about a Blue Screen crash on the highway. If Apple got involved, your flashers wouldn't work.
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Originally Posted by pmpski_1
Windows Embedded has been in use much longer than most realize. Do you have data proving a history of instability for Windows Embedded\Windows CE?
Yeah I know it's been around since the mid 90's. And it sucked then. Had a couple Pocket PC's that were not that stable. Then tried out a Palm and it was more stable. Friends with Windows Mobile smartphones complained about the instability. Granted my Treo was no bastion of stability but CE was worse.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM...5A060AF16.html

Writing malware for Windows is trivial now and has been able to be done point and click for years. Win CE/Embedded is not that much different as it's pretty much the same API's just targeted at a different CPU. And the tools to create stuff is the same.

Best for who? Possibly the best for security depending on who is doing it. Definitely the best for the ones writing the OS, both from a financial and job security perspective. Probably not the best for the company's bottom line or anyone who has to maintain this proprietary OS 10 years down the road. Yes, it will still be there in 10, probably 20 years down the road to gain maximum ROI. That cost would be passed on to the customer, you and I, who may choose to spend our money elsewhere because it's cheaper.
And who do you think gets to pay for these hacks on today's insecure systems? Us. There are plenty of "legacy" systems in use today that are maintained and supported just fine. Heck, there's still a market for COBOL programmers.

It is doable if you think long term and with security in mind. Something running your front line business on Microsoft products shows you have neither of those skills.

I could also use an embedded version of Linux for the core OS, throw a proprietary config, wrappers, and kernel around it and call it a day. It would be supportable as well as most likely 10000x more secure than anything running Windows.

Heck, to bring it back to this thread, use QNX!

Without speaking specifics it's easy to use hasty generalizations and make blanket statements regarding OS security. Hard data rules man
And the millions of malware and junk for Windows is all the hard data I need. Linux is the most popular OS used on the Web and the most hacked is Windows.

Heck, if I see .asp/.aspx in a Web address, I shop elsewhere as I value my data. Why? Cause that's an IIS box running Windows and it shows that someone doesn't value security. I won't shop there. Others would be wise to do the same.

I don't think anyone is worried about upsetting Microsoft in this day and age. There are plenty of alternatives.
Really? I'd bet you's find yourself on the loosing end of a Microsoft audit if your company actually came out and said a Microsoft product contributed to one of these incidents. Probably one of the reasons the details are kept hush hush. An interesting read: http://news.cnet.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html

You can also Google on Microsoft Audits and see they are basically extortion.
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but Apple just announced their "CarPlay", fanboys rejoice!
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...a-vovlo-others
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Originally Posted by packplantpath

Course on the apple version they seal the hood shut and putting in non-apple certified gasoline causes it to fail to start. It will also require a special gas pump because it is too good to use the same plug as every other vehicle and to prevent you from using non-apple gas.

Also,when it does crash you never really know it because it just restarts and pretends nothing ever happened. If you ever discover a verifiable problem,you are told you are holding it wrong.

Connect's with the lightning cable.
You were not that far off.

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Originally Posted by itguy08
Really? I'd bet you's find yourself on the loosing end of a Microsoft audit if your company actually came out and said a Microsoft product contributed to one of these incidents. Probably one of the reasons the details are kept hush hush. An interesting read: http://news.cnet.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html

You can also Google on Microsoft Audits and see they are basically extortion.
God, this is so true. In the 15 years I have been doing this, I have gone through at least 4 Audits per year with the various companies who have me looking after their servers. It is the worst possible experience, and even if you are within compliance, they make rules up on the fly to milk more money out of you. Extortion is the best term. This is the primary reason I have moved multiple clients and our systems off of Micro$oft.
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I find it interesting that iOS in the Car/CarPlay is run off of....QNX

The very same QNX Ford is rumored to have chosen and so many scoffed at.
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iOS is actually a version of OS X, tried and proven reliability based on a version of unix. Whew. Anyway, for my lucres, which I like to keep in me own account, I'll pay for Apple any day above Micro$oft. I keep me lucres safer and longer that way. I'm still using a 14 year old Mac... Like me, everything I have is old.
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Here is a more readable version of Apple's CarPlay that works with Blackberry's QNX system.

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/04/...x-integration/



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