Pwsfinest

I hate you. No, in all seriousness, I hate you.

(Yes, I'm kidding of course. This was funny...)

Pwsfinest

The tech at AudioVoxx did not steer me wrong! I got the key fob and second aerial antenna last night and like a kid on Christmas, tore them open and went to the truck to install (not well of course, just to make sure it works). Took about an additional 5 minutes to plug into RMST and program the FOB, but it works! Like the people with the series 100 (if you had it factory installed), I can remote start the truck from either the fob or my phone, except the fob is the two way kind so it works from further away and I get confirmation of a start if I can't see it.

So, I have confirmed that all of the parts above are needed and DO work.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYONE!

dannytexas

PWS, thanks for all the hate.
So where are you placing the second antenna? I assume the original is still in its home above the glove box.

Also where does it plug into? The original antenna plugs into the TPM. Does this plug into one of the available plugs on the RMST 200 module? Perhaps the side where the sensitivity adjustment know and option LED light plug are?

And lastly I had heard you can only have 3 FOBs programmed at any one time.
Assuming your two original FOBS (the key fob combo) and then the RMU unit that would make 3. When you programmed the 2-way fob did it knock off one of the other 3 FOB's that were programmed?

I'm thinking I might like to ditch the key fob combo due to its irregular size and just go plain key with 2 way loose FOB.

PS. I surely hope you choke on a turkey bone today but only after you answer my questions.

Pwsfinest

This is a little misleading... the series 200 needs a second antenna that attaches to the windshield with double sided tape for better range in the two-way system. The series 100 antenna is the squarish stick that installs in the glove box. This antenna is needed for the remote access (though I still haven't figured out why, since it's a radio antenna and the remote access is cellular, but the tech couldn't even enable the remote start menu in the truck without it). If what you were trying to say was "if you have the 100 series, then you already have the antenna that is needed for the remote access", then my apologies, this is correct.

dannytexas

Good point, thanks for clarifying.
That is all I was implying was for remote access you only needed your original antenna from your factory installed 100 series module.
But I worded it as if they are truly the same between 100-200 which I know is not correct.
What is really the issue is having to add a 200 series module for remote access to work. You don't need 200 series antenna or fob but the module is required.
Like someone else stated I don't know why Ford didn't make the RMU and remote access compatible with our existing 100 series modules. This way we could take the whole 200 series RMST out of the equation unless like yourself someone wanted 2-way extended range FOB's and remote start in ADDITION to the remote access phone app and existing standard key/fob 5 foot range fob. But that would be strictly optional.

Heck, we may just end up with a final post that is clear and straight forward as to what each thing does and who needs what.....but I doubt it.
Danny

ianinedm

[QUOTE="dannytexas;3126229". Also where does it plug into? The original antenna plugs into the TPM. Does this plug into one of the available plugs on the RMST 200 module? Perhaps the side where the sensitivity adjustment know and option LED light plug are? And lastly I had heard you can only have 3 FOBs programmed at any one time. Assuming your two original FOBS (the key fob combo) and then the RMU unit that would make 3. When you programmed the 2-way fob did it knock off one of the other 3 FOB's that were programmed? I'm thinking I might like to ditch the key fob combo due to its irregular size and just go plain key with 2 way loose :[/QUOTE]

For what it's worth, my bi directional antenna plugs right into the RMST module, the original antenna plugs into the y harness since the y harness took over the TPMS plug.

I also have 4 fobs working in my truck. The original 2 or the 100 series that came with my truck, the 200 bidirectional, and my switchblade key mod fob. All buttons work on all of them.

Granted when I programmed my switch blade key fob, I had to have the other two keys with me to do it, but since the bi directional fob doesn't have door lock/unlock I didn't have to program it, it just worked.

dannytexas

Thanks ianinedm!
My Y-harness didn't have a plug for original antenna. The antenna plugged directly into the TPMS next to where the Y-harness plugged into the TPMS. There are only two receptacles in my TMPS. 1 antenna and 1 harness plug.
The Y-plug with my kit only provided a splitter to plug in one other device and that was the RMST 200 model I added. There is no way to plug original antenna into the Y harness itself....again, on my kit.

Glad to hear we are not limited to 3 working fobs, I now know I can add a 200 FOB if I want for bi-directional longer range remotes.

One thing that concerns me is how you didn't have to program your bi-drection FOB. I understand you couldn't use it to unlock doors but what stops me from buying a 200 fob and walking by your truck and starting it? If you didn't program and it just works wouldn't they all just work on any 200 series RMST?
Meaning whoever bought a 200 fob could start random vehicles with 200 series systems? Without programming what marries it to the individual system?

mamonti

Danny I assume you have the MyKey system so you can program up to 8 keys but for some reason only 4 fobs! I think the programming that he is talking about is for the remote start. They have to be programmed under the RKE feature which programs the BCM to accept the lock / unlock. Now the question is does the 200 series work the same as the 100, meaning you have to push the lock button first? If so then it should NOT work without having the fob programmed!

Pwsfinest

HAH! Feel the love...

I had nothing but a hood switch when I started, so no fobs (other than entry built into key) and no antennas. First (RFR series 100 style) antenna went in glove box in the bracket above the opening. Second (series 200 style) antenna is currently just sitting in the glove box, but is designed to have the cable run up the pillar and the antenna stuck to the glass as high as possible to increase range. I'm going to see what kind of range I get with it inside the dash. The second antenna does just plug into the RMST 200. There is a plug with like 5 or 6 pins in a straight line. Just simply plugged it in there, cycled the key in the ignition 6 times, pushed the button on the fob to program, and whalah! I only have the one fob, since I wanted to test that this setup will work without buying more fobs (at the low low rip off price of $65 each!)... According to the manual "the system has the ability to operate from up to 8 remote controls." I will never have that many and that's probably just what the RMST can store, so you could probably have 8 fobs AND the cellular which allows as many phones with the app installed as you want. Even in a fleet environment, I can't imagine needing 8 fobs. Now that I know it works, I'll order another one for the wife.

The only thing I'm still curious about is if a series 100 fob would have worked with my setup before adding the series 200 antenna and fob. That's the only reason I can think that you would need the RFR series 100 antenna in the first place. I prefer longer range and the two-way features of what I have, but I'm always curious about cool things like this...

Pwsfinest

The 100 series is not two-way, the 200 series is. So you need the 200 series in order for it to talk back to the RMU so the RMU can send updates to your phone... Why they don't just scrap the whole 100 is beyond me. Are we really talking that big of a cost to upgrade everything to 200?