MadocHandyman

Lol! Another comedian! Good one!! ;-)
You should get in on this thread

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/nooo-m...e-wars-192193/

:-)

BoostedFx

Lol....Do More!!!! Lol lol.....Let me know how that higher sales value thing works out for ya....(Face palm) I need a good laugh this Monday. All the used 2011+ 3.5L ecoboost have a higher resale value with equal equipment packages and mileage V's a 5.0L. Same thing as a 4x4 will have a higher resale value V's a 4x2 or a Platinum Edition V's XLT. You pay a Premium up front and that stays with the overall value of the truck even as they both depreciate. SORRY to burst your bubble...

NASSTY

Oh no!! He's back.

RRSkinner

Here is another possibility. "That was when they first came out with the new technology and hadn't worked out the bugs. The later models they fixed all of the problems, but that year was bad." I paid 21.5k, plus taxes and reg. All things being equal, I believe I will get a higher percentage of the purchase back. Most people agree that by the time you pay $2000 more for ecoboost and then pay to maintain/replace, you are never going to get the money back in gas. I am running the numbers as I write. $2000 for ecoboost, plus $1000 for expense. (Even though replacing the turbos costs alot more than that). Let's figure the break-even: Say the turbos costs $3000 per 100,000. That is .03/mi. Let's keep it simple and say the mileage with the turbos is 10% better and again to keep it simple let's put gas at $3 and miles per gallon at 20. So you go 20 miles and save 10% of $3, which is .30/20 miles, which is .015. These numbers can be debated, but in this analysis, you are paying three cents per mile based on a turbo live of 100k to save a penny and a half. One can argue that gas costs more and that the turbo life will be longer, but it still boils down to your spending $2 to save $1 and tweaking the numbers might get you to saving some money some day, but a very risky investment. What is not discussed is the probable shorter engine life either. I did this break even very quickly and if there is a flaw, please let me know. I see the ecoboost as an experiment and the purchasers as weak-minded people who think you can get something for nothing. I have never found that to to true. So before you start laughing and poking and making snide comments, run some numbers and show me.

MadocHandyman

Wow! Brilliant deduction Sherlock.

130428

i read on the internet (and it must be true then) that each "Ecoboost" emblem on the side of the truck goes for $ 2,500 at the dealer. and when they fall off, which is more likely to happen since the 5.0 doesnt have any, then entire door has to be replaced.
so right there, buying an EB is more expensive in the long-run than a 5.0.

J_Z

No one wants to hear some smart-***** remarks when they are looking for help or answers to their problems with their trucks. If you enjoy your 5.0 thats awesome good luck with it. I love my Ecoboost and I love having turbos. I didnt pay a dime extra for the motor, in fact at the time I bought mine I got the Ecoboost with chrome package was cheaper than the 5.0's were in my area.

Someone has to buy new technology or it would never advance. My first vehicle was a 1962 Ford f100 with over 650,000 miles on the 223 I6 Motor which had been rebuilt twice. I dont want a 223 I6 today and I am glad technology has brought us this far.

No reason to start a 5.0 vrs Eco war here, lets just stick to the issues and providing positive and productive feedback.

BoostedFx

WOW....you said and I quote "I see the ecoboost as an experiment and the purchasers as weak-minded people who think you can get something for nothing." You must have alot of Face Palm moments..... I'm not debating which engine is better both are great and to say that the Ecoboost is an experiment!!!! Really????? you should be a comedian. I just laughed so hard reading that, I sure hope you don't actually believe what you type. If it was an experiment then Ford would not be putting them in 80% of their vehicle lineup and Range Rover would not be using the Ecoboost in their SUV's. Also like how you assume that a turbo lasts 100k and costs $3,000 to replace. You must just speak without researching, new 3.5L turbo is $475.00 and most turbos last 300k - 400k miles, just ask any truck driver.
You need to just go park your truck or better yet sell it and go back to a horse and buggy because at one time a gas engine was an experiment and would hate to call you a weak minded person cause then you'd be a hypocrite. Unbelievable......

summertop511

Wow I have the 5.0 but follow Kelley to see if he ever gets fixed. I'm glad to hear it man! If I was you I would give that truck an entire tune up! Spark plugs fuel system cleaner and all. Now that it seems corrected.

RRSkinner

If you go to the Ford website and punch in that you want the Ecoboost, they add $2400. You are correct, that is not $2500. If you want the 5.0, they add $1000, but they rebate $500. So you are right again, it is only a difference of $1900, which is little more than a dime. I am not looking to start a war. I am saying that new ideas often don't work out and I just bought a new truck. I researched the ecoboost and decided against it. Please don't confuse intelligent-analysis with anything else. All I ever said was there is no magic in turbos. The extra performance that is created by forcing more performance out of a smaller engine is going to shorted the engine life. The economy is bought with with smaller pistons and fewer having less friction. I just don't think it is worth it. As to the resale value of one over the other, in ten years I believe people will go for the V8, which will have a lower cost of maintenance.
As to "looking for help with problems," shouldn't that be Ford's problem? Excuse me Dealer, "My truck is running like crap, can you fix it" seems alot more productive than cruising the web bitching like a woman. I'm mostly kidding--so be offended--I don't really care.