F150 To Raptor Suspension Conversion
03-30-2014, 07:58 PM
#21
I think you are going to be surprised when you hit the scales but we'll see. The Eco engine itself is lighter than the 6.2 but that doesn't count the charge piping, intercooler, etc... There was something on PUT.com awhile back - they are within 70lbs or so when that stuff is accounted for.
As for the sway bar -
Eibach makes a slightly stiffer spring for the Factory Raptor coilovers. With those springs you can run without a sway bar and never notice. I don't run one and you can't tell on road but can off.
As for the sway bar -
Eibach makes a slightly stiffer spring for the Factory Raptor coilovers. With those springs you can run without a sway bar and never notice. I don't run one and you can't tell on road but can off.
Now you got me itching to run across a scale, i'll have to see if I can find one here in the next week or 2, this coming week is gonna be a little crazy, so not sure i can get to it this week.
04-07-2014, 01:26 PM
#24
Senior Member
Great Info! I've been wanting to do this conversion since i got my truck, but haven't had the extra money to be able to do it. Last year I spent alot of time looking, and while I found one guy who had done it, yours is the first definitive post with ALL of details I could think to ask for. Especially useful is knowing the Raptor axles are compatible with the normal F150 Differential. Which means our 8.8 inch Diff is a 31-spline.
Major Thumbs Up.
Major Thumbs Up.
05-29-2014, 05:58 PM
#25
Update after putting some more miles on the truck. I can get 18-20mpg at highway speeds now that the temps have warmed up. Any kind of head wind will kill the mpg as well as towing an enclosed uhaul trailer.
The 5* tuning is definately the best tuning out there for my truck, shifts are spot on, rpms run great, and the mileage is the best i've seen.
3.55 gears seem to work really well with these tires, and more gear is definitely not necessary. I'm seriously reconsidering if i need to worry about swapping up to 4.10's or not, albeit the 4.10's will definitely wake it up down low, its far from a slouch.
Next step I believe will be the "raptor like" grille off ebay, and a "FORD" lettering kit as well to overlay on the rectangles on the generic off brand raptor grill.
Once a little more $ rolls in, i'll probably swap in a set of FX4 blacked out projector headlights.
I'm loving the truck, and the wife gets mad at me when I drive her Cherokee cause i always forget that i can't take the bumps in the road like I can with this set up.
The 5* tuning is definately the best tuning out there for my truck, shifts are spot on, rpms run great, and the mileage is the best i've seen.
3.55 gears seem to work really well with these tires, and more gear is definitely not necessary. I'm seriously reconsidering if i need to worry about swapping up to 4.10's or not, albeit the 4.10's will definitely wake it up down low, its far from a slouch.
Next step I believe will be the "raptor like" grille off ebay, and a "FORD" lettering kit as well to overlay on the rectangles on the generic off brand raptor grill.
Once a little more $ rolls in, i'll probably swap in a set of FX4 blacked out projector headlights.
I'm loving the truck, and the wife gets mad at me when I drive her Cherokee cause i always forget that i can't take the bumps in the road like I can with this set up.
07-01-2015, 09:30 AM
#28
Yes, I am still running this set up and I love it, arguably it is one of the best mods i've ever done on a vehicle (and that's saying something).
The ride is great, it completely changes how you view the road. A good example, there is an intersection that i regularly take at 45mph in my truck. The truck was down this spring for brake issues and I had a rental . . . without thinking, i took the rental car across the intersection at 45mph, it scraped the undercarriage and then nearly went airborn . . . scared the crap out of me for a second! You forget how much that suspension will take up w/o ever letting you know it.
I've towed quite a bit with it and it pulls really nice. If i was going to tow a lot, i would invest in some air bags to level things out . . . but i really cant' complain with how it works just as it stands.
Regarding "tearing the fenders off" . . . you are correct, and I stated that in my original post. If you want to air the truck out a little, you have 3 options:
1) Raptor fenders ($)
2) Cut the fenders and get fender flares . . . i couldn't find cut out flares for our trucks when i was looking.
3) Run a 2" leveling kit in the front and put the struts on bottom perch . . . this will limit up travel while still giving you the height. I didn't do this because I hate now the trucks drive with a leveling kit.
I built this to be a fun daily driver that goes off road occasionally. After i invest $40k into a truck, i have plans of beating it to death off road . . .thats what 4 wheelers are for. For 99% of folks, this will work great, and i've gone over some pretty good bumps and never stuffed the tires into the fenders . . .but i am aware of that limitation . . .but there are ways around it. My goal wasn't to build a raptor, but something that fits me better than the raptor . . . i have great ride, great reliability given its all factory parts . . .but don't pay the price at the pump for the v8, and with a tuner I make very comparable power . . . Oh, and my door sticker still says i can tow 9600 lbs :-D
The ride is great, it completely changes how you view the road. A good example, there is an intersection that i regularly take at 45mph in my truck. The truck was down this spring for brake issues and I had a rental . . . without thinking, i took the rental car across the intersection at 45mph, it scraped the undercarriage and then nearly went airborn . . . scared the crap out of me for a second! You forget how much that suspension will take up w/o ever letting you know it.
I've towed quite a bit with it and it pulls really nice. If i was going to tow a lot, i would invest in some air bags to level things out . . . but i really cant' complain with how it works just as it stands.
Regarding "tearing the fenders off" . . . you are correct, and I stated that in my original post. If you want to air the truck out a little, you have 3 options:
1) Raptor fenders ($)
2) Cut the fenders and get fender flares . . . i couldn't find cut out flares for our trucks when i was looking.
3) Run a 2" leveling kit in the front and put the struts on bottom perch . . . this will limit up travel while still giving you the height. I didn't do this because I hate now the trucks drive with a leveling kit.
I built this to be a fun daily driver that goes off road occasionally. After i invest $40k into a truck, i have plans of beating it to death off road . . .thats what 4 wheelers are for. For 99% of folks, this will work great, and i've gone over some pretty good bumps and never stuffed the tires into the fenders . . .but i am aware of that limitation . . .but there are ways around it. My goal wasn't to build a raptor, but something that fits me better than the raptor . . . i have great ride, great reliability given its all factory parts . . .but don't pay the price at the pump for the v8, and with a tuner I make very comparable power . . . Oh, and my door sticker still says i can tow 9600 lbs :-D
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sigma pi (07-01-2015)
07-06-2015, 10:54 AM
#30
EB FX4 EcoRaptor
I did the same with my 2011 FX4 by purchasing a complete front Raptor front suspension for $2000. (Including the front axels). Installed a pair of FRP Glasswork fenders (Raptor +2" wheel opening), and running with 37" tires at low perch with no fenders rubbing. I also installed a front Raptor swaybar since driving at high speed wasn't stable.
Next thing I need to do, is reducing the rear overall height. FX4 with rear Raptor shock and 37' tires, makes this truck hard to clinb!
Next thing I need to do, is reducing the rear overall height. FX4 with rear Raptor shock and 37' tires, makes this truck hard to clinb!