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That's right Darren and m*******, we're just all after your engine, out to denigrate it into non-existence. Total ****** we are.
Of course, you guys attack the people, so that's ok.
Basically, thats why Ecoboost folks get all worked up. Someone asks which engine they should buy and then a bunch of people give them false information on something they know nothing about beyond there own one-off experience.
It's the same thing over and over again about reliabilty and MPG's. Unfortunately, it seem that at least in the case of MPG's, the Ecoboost is at least as good as the 5.0 if not better in real world conditions based on probably the best source we have. So i'd be great if that myth could go die.
I hear the same crap from the Ram and GM people. The ram isnt even close and the GM 6.2 matches the Ecoboost.
If it was a daily driver/play truck I'd say get whichever you prefer, after driving both of course. If you're going to be towing anything significant, especially if mountain driving were involved, the Eco would be a no-brainer. I've driven one on a couple occasions and was very impressed. The first time I stuck one to the floor, I almost couldn't believe what I was experiencing. It takes just a second (literally) to get the boost up, and then hang on. So what if it prefers premium when towing heavy?
If I would have a need to tow anything near 10,000 lbs, it is not going to be with the F150 in any configuration. Would be like the tail wagging the dog in my opinion.
Don't miss the forest for the trees. The point is that you need to consider what you want the truck to do before you decide how many cylinders its engine has.
And 10K is well within the performance envelope of this generation of F-150. If you need to tow that much, but only once or twice a year, you're probably better served with an F-150 than a Super Duty.
Don't miss the forest for the trees. The point is that you need to consider what you want the truck to do before you decide how many cylinders its engine has.
And 10K is well within the performance envelope of this generation of F-150. If you need to tow that much, but only once or twice a year, you're probably better served with an F-150 than a Super Duty.
I think that the bigger takeaway here is that you need to consider the engine reliability and longevity prior to making a choice. One of these engines has a very poor history and a bleak future for reliability.
If you are towing over 7k-8k lbs, do yourself a favor and get an F250/350... 2500/3500 etc. for the pure safety.
Thank you I appreciate it , all the research and knowledge
Originally Posted by tanked_darren
Not one mention of axle size, also math don't add up, 5.0 is a dog compared to the EcoBoost and 6.2
Why would he need repair shops? I got well over 100k and all I had to do was change oil and take it in for a brake booster recall.
Both trucks are reliable
How is the 5.0 cheaper to service? It has 2 more spark plugs, other than that its just oil changes and air filters.
I never had a problem towing with using regular octane...
Its not required to drive or tow with an ecoboost.
I towed through the rockies many times, what you are saying simply is not true.
They are both reliable, and the eco power band is superior to all other engines in these trucks
I'll give an unbiased opinion. I bought a 3.7L as a daily driver, but have driven both 5.0L trucks and EB trucks.
The power in the EcoBoost trucks comes on HARD. The torque curve is super flat. And there's nothing scary under the hood that you couldn't work on yourself and a ton of power can be made with a programmer.
Typically a 5.0L can be had for cheaper than an EcoBoost and you'll never have to replace 2 turbos. The rest is a wash unless the V8 sound is critical to you.
If I were going to buy a truck to tow trailers often, I wouldn't hesitate to get an EcoBoost.
Not one mention of axle size, also math don't add up, 5.0 is a dog compared to the EcoBoost and 6.2
Why would he need repair shops? I got well over 100k and all I had to do was change oil and take it in for a brake booster recall.
Both trucks are reliable
How is the 5.0 cheaper to service? It has 2 more spark plugs, other than that its just oil changes and air filters.
I never had a problem towing with using regular octane...
Its not required to drive or tow with an ecoboost.
I towed through the rockies many times, what you are saying simply is not true.
They are both reliable, and the eco power band is superior to all other engines in these trucks
You need to buy a lottery ticket.
The first gen. EgoBoost, as we've documented 40 million times, was so problem stricken that it got scrapped. Ford started over from scratch. No shared parts with the original, according to them.
Do we really need to hash out the countless TSBs and recalls on the EgoBoost trucks again? Really?
This isn't really up for opinion at this point. The Coyote is FAR more reliable than the EgoBoost.
As far as the power curves, what does that dyno curve look like while the truck is on the rack at the repair shop? Pretty flat, isn't it?
I've used this analogy before. It's like two guys at the gym. One is a little dude who is on the juice hard, has veins popping out everywhere, bench presses 500 lbs. The other guy is huge and just built heavier. He only benches 480 lbs. but he doesn't kill himself trying to do it. The little guy is technically stronger....by a small margin....but he's also going to die of a heart attack when he's 38 years old. Which dude would you rather be?
Ford specifically designed the EgoBoost to be slightly ahead of the V8 in terms of power, but it took a lot to get it there and now it's at the upper limit of it's capacity in it's current generation. The Coyote on the other hand...the sky is the limit. At 400 horsepower/torque it's not even breaking a sweat. There are countless 5.0s out there with 200k, 300k, 400k miles on them. Saw one two weeks ago with 375k on the clock and no major repairs.
The first gen. EgoBoost, as we've documented 40 million times, was so problem stricken that it got scrapped. Ford started over from scratch. No shared parts with the original, according to them.
Do we really need to hash out the countless TSBs and recalls on the EgoBoost trucks again? Really?
This isn't really up for opinion at this point. The Coyote is FAR more reliable than the EgoBoost.
As far as the power curves, what does that dyno curve look like while the truck is on the rack at the repair shop? Pretty flat, isn't it?
I've used this analogy before. It's like two guys at the gym. One is a little dude who is on the juice hard, has veins popping out everywhere, bench presses 500 lbs. The other guy is huge and just built heavier. He only benches 480 lbs. but he doesn't kill himself trying to do it. The little guy is technically stronger....by a small margin....but he's also going to die of a heart attack when he's 38 years old. Which dude would you rather be?
Ford specifically designed the EgoBoost to be slightly ahead of the V8 in terms of power, but it took a lot to get it there and now it's at the upper limit of it's capacity in it's current generation. The Coyote on the other hand...the sky is the limit. At 400 horsepower/torque it's not even breaking a sweat. There are countless 5.0s out there with 200k, 300k, 400k miles on them. Saw one two weeks ago with 375k on the clock and no major repairs.
Yes, thank you!!! Finally a post that explains this well. The 5.0 is the obvious superior choice for any circumstance that an F150 would encounter. As stated before, If you are really towing beyond what a 5.0 can do then you absolutely need a Super Duty.
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