Ecoboost running rich?
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Ecoboost running rich?
Just bought a 2013 XLT SCREW, and I've noticed when I start it to warm it up in the morning, the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline while its idling. Its most noticeable immediately after starting it. Anyone else notice this, and is it normal? This, coupled with lower gas mileage than I expected has me wondering. I only have about 1400 miles on it, but I'm averaging only about 13 mpg. I'm sure the freezing temps here in the Detroit area aren't helping, either.
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Mine does the same thing, a few times i have seen black smoke. I think its due to the direct injection. Im averaging about 15-16 right now but im hardly ever in the boost and live out in the country.
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FX4 SCrew TT'd V6
I have seen both with mine.
I have ecoboost since their release in the F150 and the mileage tanks in the winter. Average 14.5 now when I normally get 17 average back and forth between home and work.
I have ecoboost since their release in the F150 and the mileage tanks in the winter. Average 14.5 now when I normally get 17 average back and forth between home and work.
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We had a nice warm spell last week and i went from my usual 25l/100km up to 17l/100km noe that its cold again my milage has dropped. Welcome. To the world of the ecoboost. I remember reading somewhere that the eco runs rich until its warm.
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It's from the DI, worse in the winter and it's noticeably worse if you leave it idling for long periods of time.
Short trips also dilute the oil with gas as the truck doesn't get up to normal temps to evaporate it...but yes it is normal.
Short trips also dilute the oil with gas as the truck doesn't get up to normal temps to evaporate it...but yes it is normal.
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Keepin' the lights on!
While the black smoke and soot are more prominent in the EB and DI engines altogether, most vehicles do this on the first start. The vehicle is in "open loop" on a cold start. The O2 sensors are not warm enough to give a correct reading so without knowing exactly how the engine is running, the ECM dumps a preprogrammed amount of fuel ( usually rich for easier starts and smoother cold idle). The vehicle will also stay at a higher idle to aid warming the O2s and cats up.
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OP- I have done a lot of reading on the 13 EB as I have one and my mileage blows. I think ford has either detuned or retuned the 13's and that has something to do with the mileage being a lot worse than the previous 2 years models. Call me crazy but if you google it you will see what I am talking about.
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for those guys with 13's
PCM Update Emission Recall 13E03
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
Michael A. Berardi Ford Motor Company
Director P. O. Box 1904
Service Engineering Operations Dearborn, Michigan 48121
Ford Customer Service Division
July 25, 2013
TO: All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Dealers
SUBJECT: DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
AFFECTED VEHICLES
Certain 2013 model year F-150 vehicles equipped with a 3.5L GTDI engine built at Dearborn and
Kansas City Assembly Plants from April 2, 2013 through June 5, 2013. Affected vehicles are
identified in OASIS. In addition, for a list of vehicles assigned to your dealership, visit
https://web.fsavinlists.dealerconnection.com. This information will be available on July 25, 2013.
REASON FOR THIS EMISSION RECALL
In all of the affected vehicles, the Downstream Catalyst Monitor Sensor (DCMS) Onboard Diagnostics
test does not complete. While the DCMS test is running and not completing, the engine air-fuel
control may remain biased rich, which has a negative impact on emissions and fuel economy.
SERVICE ACTION
Before delivering any of the vehicles involved in this recall, dealers are to reprogram the Powertrain
Control Module (PCM) to the latest level using IDS release 85.02 or higher. This service must be
performed on all affected vehicles at no charge to the vehicle owner.
NOTE: The State of California and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts require the completion of
emission recall repairs prior to vehicle registration renewal. For vehicles registered in these states,
please provide the owner with a Vehicle Emission Recall Proof of Correction certificate after the
repair has been performed. These certificates may be obtained by contacting your regional office.
OWNER NOTIFICATION MAILING SCHEDULE
Owner Letters are expected to be mailed by September 20, 2013. Dealers should repair any affected
vehicles that arrive at their dealerships, whether or not the customer has received a letter.
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
PLEASE NOTE:
The sale of uncorrected new vehicles to customers could lead to penalties under applicable
state and Federal regulations. Correct all vehicles in your new vehicle inventory prior to
delivery.
ATTACHMENTS
Attachment I: Administrative Information
Attachment II: Labor Allowances and Parts Ordering Information
Attachment III: Technical Information
Owner Notification Letter
QUESTIONS & ASSISTANCE
Special Service Support Center (Dealer Assistance Only) 1-800-325-5621
Sincerely,
Michael A. Berardi
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
ATTACHMENT I
Page 1 of 2
DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
OASIS ACTIVATED?
Yes, OASIS will be activated on July 25, 2013.
FSA VIN LIST ACTIVATED?
Yes, FSA VIN list will be available through https://web.fsavinlists.dealerconnection.com on July 25,
2013. Owner names and addresses will be available by September 30, 2013.
NOTE: Your FSA VIN list may contain owner names and addresses obtained from motor vehicle
registration records. The use of such motor vehicle registration data for any purpose other than in
connection with this recall is a violation of law in several states, provinces, and countries.
Accordingly, you must limit the use of this listing to the follow-up necessary to complete this recall.
STOCK VEHICLES
Correct all affected units in your new vehicle inventory before delivery.
SOLD VEHICLES
Owners of affected vehicles will be directed to dealers for repairs.
Immediately contact any of your affected customers whose vehicles are not on your VIN list
but are identified in OASIS. Give the customer a copy of the Owner Notification Letter (when
available) and schedule a service date.
Correct other affected vehicles identified in OASIS which are brought to your dealership.
TITLE BRANDED / SALVAGED VEHICLES
Affected title branded and salvaged vehicles are eligible for this recall.
RELATED DAMAGE
If a related damage condition exists that you believe to be caused by the covered condition, call the
Special Service Support Center to request approval prior to the repair of any related damage.
Requests for approval after completion of the repair will not be granted. Ford Motor Company
reserves the right to deny coverage for related damage in cases where the vehicle owner has not had
this recall performed on a timely basis.
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
ATTACHMENT I
Page 2 of 2
DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
ADDITIONAL LABOR TIME
If a condition exists that requires additional labor to complete the repair, call the Special
Service Support Center to request approval prior to performing any additional labor.
Requests for approval after completion of the repair will not be granted.
If you encounter aftermarket equipment or modifications to the vehicle which might prevent
the repair of the covered condition, call the Special Service Support Center.
OWNER REFUNDS
Refunds are not authorized for this program.
RENTAL VEHICLES
The use of rental vehicles is not authorized for this program.
CLAIMS PREPARATION AND SUBMISSION
Enter claims using Direct Warranty Entry (DWE).
Refer to ACESII manual for claims preparation and submission information.
Related damage must be claimed on a repair line that is separate from the repair line on
which the FSA is claimed. Related damage requires prior approval from the Special Service
Support Center.
"MT" labor should be submitted on a separate repair line with the related damage flag
checked. "MT" labor requires prior approval from the Special Service Support Center.
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
ATTACHMENT II
Page 1 of 1
DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
LABOR ALLOWANCES
Description Labor Operation Labor Time
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) 13E03B 0.4 Hours
PARTS REQUIREMENTS / ORDERING INFORMATION
Parts are not required to complete this repair.
__________________
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PCM Update Emission Recall 13E03
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
Michael A. Berardi Ford Motor Company
Director P. O. Box 1904
Service Engineering Operations Dearborn, Michigan 48121
Ford Customer Service Division
July 25, 2013
TO: All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Dealers
SUBJECT: DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
AFFECTED VEHICLES
Certain 2013 model year F-150 vehicles equipped with a 3.5L GTDI engine built at Dearborn and
Kansas City Assembly Plants from April 2, 2013 through June 5, 2013. Affected vehicles are
identified in OASIS. In addition, for a list of vehicles assigned to your dealership, visit
https://web.fsavinlists.dealerconnection.com. This information will be available on July 25, 2013.
REASON FOR THIS EMISSION RECALL
In all of the affected vehicles, the Downstream Catalyst Monitor Sensor (DCMS) Onboard Diagnostics
test does not complete. While the DCMS test is running and not completing, the engine air-fuel
control may remain biased rich, which has a negative impact on emissions and fuel economy.
SERVICE ACTION
Before delivering any of the vehicles involved in this recall, dealers are to reprogram the Powertrain
Control Module (PCM) to the latest level using IDS release 85.02 or higher. This service must be
performed on all affected vehicles at no charge to the vehicle owner.
NOTE: The State of California and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts require the completion of
emission recall repairs prior to vehicle registration renewal. For vehicles registered in these states,
please provide the owner with a Vehicle Emission Recall Proof of Correction certificate after the
repair has been performed. These certificates may be obtained by contacting your regional office.
OWNER NOTIFICATION MAILING SCHEDULE
Owner Letters are expected to be mailed by September 20, 2013. Dealers should repair any affected
vehicles that arrive at their dealerships, whether or not the customer has received a letter.
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
PLEASE NOTE:
The sale of uncorrected new vehicles to customers could lead to penalties under applicable
state and Federal regulations. Correct all vehicles in your new vehicle inventory prior to
delivery.
ATTACHMENTS
Attachment I: Administrative Information
Attachment II: Labor Allowances and Parts Ordering Information
Attachment III: Technical Information
Owner Notification Letter
QUESTIONS & ASSISTANCE
Special Service Support Center (Dealer Assistance Only) 1-800-325-5621
Sincerely,
Michael A. Berardi
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
ATTACHMENT I
Page 1 of 2
DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
OASIS ACTIVATED?
Yes, OASIS will be activated on July 25, 2013.
FSA VIN LIST ACTIVATED?
Yes, FSA VIN list will be available through https://web.fsavinlists.dealerconnection.com on July 25,
2013. Owner names and addresses will be available by September 30, 2013.
NOTE: Your FSA VIN list may contain owner names and addresses obtained from motor vehicle
registration records. The use of such motor vehicle registration data for any purpose other than in
connection with this recall is a violation of law in several states, provinces, and countries.
Accordingly, you must limit the use of this listing to the follow-up necessary to complete this recall.
STOCK VEHICLES
Correct all affected units in your new vehicle inventory before delivery.
SOLD VEHICLES
Owners of affected vehicles will be directed to dealers for repairs.
Immediately contact any of your affected customers whose vehicles are not on your VIN list
but are identified in OASIS. Give the customer a copy of the Owner Notification Letter (when
available) and schedule a service date.
Correct other affected vehicles identified in OASIS which are brought to your dealership.
TITLE BRANDED / SALVAGED VEHICLES
Affected title branded and salvaged vehicles are eligible for this recall.
RELATED DAMAGE
If a related damage condition exists that you believe to be caused by the covered condition, call the
Special Service Support Center to request approval prior to the repair of any related damage.
Requests for approval after completion of the repair will not be granted. Ford Motor Company
reserves the right to deny coverage for related damage in cases where the vehicle owner has not had
this recall performed on a timely basis.
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
ATTACHMENT I
Page 2 of 2
DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
ADDITIONAL LABOR TIME
If a condition exists that requires additional labor to complete the repair, call the Special
Service Support Center to request approval prior to performing any additional labor.
Requests for approval after completion of the repair will not be granted.
If you encounter aftermarket equipment or modifications to the vehicle which might prevent
the repair of the covered condition, call the Special Service Support Center.
OWNER REFUNDS
Refunds are not authorized for this program.
RENTAL VEHICLES
The use of rental vehicles is not authorized for this program.
CLAIMS PREPARATION AND SUBMISSION
Enter claims using Direct Warranty Entry (DWE).
Refer to ACESII manual for claims preparation and submission information.
Related damage must be claimed on a repair line that is separate from the repair line on
which the FSA is claimed. Related damage requires prior approval from the Special Service
Support Center.
"MT" labor should be submitted on a separate repair line with the related damage flag
checked. "MT" labor requires prior approval from the Special Service Support Center.
Copyright 2013 Ford Motor Company
ATTACHMENT II
Page 1 of 1
DELIVERY HOLD - Emission Recall 13E03
Certain 2013 Model Year F-150 Vehicles Equipped with a 3.5L GTDI Engine
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module
LABOR ALLOWANCES
Description Labor Operation Labor Time
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) 13E03B 0.4 Hours
PARTS REQUIREMENTS / ORDERING INFORMATION
Parts are not required to complete this repair.
__________________
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