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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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With diesel fuel costing 50 to 70 cents more a gallon than gas it would be crazy to want a diesel unless it was really needed to pull a major load
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by yokev
I pay $80 for a synthetic oil change for my Duramax, and I just paid $97 for the first [synthetic] oil change for my Ecoboost.
Diesel prices at a local gas station:
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3.89 ARCO 1700 W. La Palma Ave & N Euclid St
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20 years ago diesel was more expensive to operate. Those days are gone.
A diesel oil change is no more expensive, diesel fuel prices bump around, but I've never seen it more than Super around here, and right now it's cheaper than even Regular unl.
Diesel engines typically last at least 2-3 times longer than gasoline engines, they have much greater load and towing capability, and they return better gas mileage.
Diesel-equipped trucks cost $7k+ more than their gas-engine counterparts, thus don't start returning on the 'investment' until after 5-years from a strictly fuel mileage standpoint. If you tow 'heavy', they pay dividends right off the bat.
People who buy predominantly gasoline-powered half-ton pick-ups with 5.5' beds aren't going to have a whole lot of experience with diesel trucks, as they don't have a need for even the typical-sized truck bed.
Trying to ascertain the 'value' of buying a diesel truck on a half-ton forum isn't therefore going to net accurate info, as you're not going to get a whole lot of *REAL* firsthand experience. Especially when you're looking for a comparison with the forum's main event.
Dieselplace.com, powerstroke.org, and cumminsforum.com are much better resources for true diesel-truck info.
There's a Ford truck forum that has both half-ton and diesel forums, but is a direct competitor of this site.
Your fuel prices aren't what a majority of the nations results are... Diesel fuel is .50 higher here.... EVERYDAY.
Oil change for Ford 6.7 is almost double than of 1/2 ton.

Now that being said, if you need a diesel, buy a diesel! All I'm saying is the Ecoboost is filling a gap where some people don't quite require a diesel, but need a little something extra for pulling.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by zapufast
Now that being said, if you need a diesel, buy a diesel! All I'm saying is the Ecoboost is filling a gap where some people don't quite require a diesel, but need a little something extra for pulling.
Agreed with this.

And I don't know how that guy got full synthetic oil changes in a diesel for less than a half ton considering they take twice the amount of oil. The numbers just don't add up.

Fuel cost at $.50/gal is about $13. That gets pricey when you are doing 2 tanks a week. Sometimes 4.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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Good to hear.

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Appreciate it. I got another job already (was laid off on Labor Day ironically). Took a healthy pay cut but at least I'm working. And it's a better job with benefits and no traveling. Lost my 6.7 but got a better gig so I guess it wasn't to bad of a trade. Now if someone would just offer me $35,000 for my Eco I'd be a happy man haha
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Centexguy

Appreciate it. I got another job already (was laid off on Labor Day ironically). Took a healthy pay cut but at least I'm working. And it's a better job with benefits and no traveling. Lost my 6.7 but got a better gig so I guess it wasn't to bad of a trade. Now if someone would just offer me $35,000 for my Eco I'd be a happy man haha
Benefits count for a lot these days!!!!
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Unless you really need the extra power of diesel (very heavy loads), and most people don't, and even if the fuel was .50 a gallon cheaper than gas, you will never break even moneywise unless you drive that smelly thing for at least 500K miles. Between the higher purchase price and the much higher maintenance costs it just doesn't pay to buy diesel unless you tow very heavy loads all the time. And all the one's I've had and most friends who have had one didn't get nearly the fuel mileage they were supposed to get, tuned or not.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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And all the one's I've had and most friends who have had one didn't get nearly the fuel mileage they were supposed to get, tuned or not.
Hmm. Sounds very familiar to another engine I know of.....
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