2009 KR no fuel
#1
2009 KR no fuel
Greetings All, my tale is a sad and somewhat long one so I am going to get the issue up front then explain how I got here.
-- No fuel from the injectors, 3.2v with KOEO read at #1 injector harness, no fuel on plug, fuel pump running, ~35PSI at rail, injectors are new, no codes -- Now for the details:
I purchased the truck with 91K miles and a known cam phaser tick and a broken right side exhaust manifold. Good deal and I figured I would just pull the motor and fix what I needed to. Once the engine was out things got ugly, worn cams, gunk in the oil pan/pickup tube, etc. I decided to just buy a reman longblock and replace everything that I could. So the list began:
Things as well as can be expected. Everything goes in and bolts up, all electrical connections are cleaned including grounds/contact points. Got it all back together and crank it over to verify oil pressure. All good so its go time. I reconnect the crank sensor and move it outside to fire up. Cranks no problem but no start, ok I clearly did something wrong. I walk back over everything and do it twice. I cannot find an issue, everything in the truck works from the windows to the radio but no start. I replace the crank sensor with the same Motorcraft one I initially bought even through I knew it was working since I could see 160RPM on the tach when cranking. Nothing. I bleed the fuel rails and cycle the pump, ~35PSI all good. I spark test #1, all good. I go through every ground and connector for the 3rd time, nothing out of the ordinary.
So after dropping every name in the book, some I think the boy had heard for the first time, I try a hail mary. I break out the starting fluid and fog the intake upstream from the MAF sensor. Tap the pedal a couple of times and it fires then quickly dies.
No fuel right? Easy it must be bad parts? Yeah that didn't sound right a first either but what the hell lets install the old injectors and ... nothing.
Now I want to be clear that this isn't my first rodeo and I am very careful to not jack around and old wiring harness so I was extra careful when moving the main harness around and also careful with the engine harness itself so the possibility of it being a broken wire is low but I am not puttng anything out of the realm of possibility. I do have a low end code reader but there isn't anything stored so no help there. My last act yesterday was to order a Autel 808 so that I can actuate the injectors and the fuel pump plus see live data which I cannot do with my current scanner.
So thats my tale and if you made it this far I thank you for your time. Hopefully the old saying is true "misery loves company" and I can find someone out there that can point me in a positive direction.
-- No fuel from the injectors, 3.2v with KOEO read at #1 injector harness, no fuel on plug, fuel pump running, ~35PSI at rail, injectors are new, no codes -- Now for the details:
I purchased the truck with 91K miles and a known cam phaser tick and a broken right side exhaust manifold. Good deal and I figured I would just pull the motor and fix what I needed to. Once the engine was out things got ugly, worn cams, gunk in the oil pan/pickup tube, etc. I decided to just buy a reman longblock and replace everything that I could. So the list began:
- 5.4 3v from Tristar Engines
- Complete new exhaust
- All new sensors (Motorcrafts)
- New VVT solnoids
- Water pump
- Belts/hoses
- Coil packs
- Plugs
- New injectors
- Radiator
Things as well as can be expected. Everything goes in and bolts up, all electrical connections are cleaned including grounds/contact points. Got it all back together and crank it over to verify oil pressure. All good so its go time. I reconnect the crank sensor and move it outside to fire up. Cranks no problem but no start, ok I clearly did something wrong. I walk back over everything and do it twice. I cannot find an issue, everything in the truck works from the windows to the radio but no start. I replace the crank sensor with the same Motorcraft one I initially bought even through I knew it was working since I could see 160RPM on the tach when cranking. Nothing. I bleed the fuel rails and cycle the pump, ~35PSI all good. I spark test #1, all good. I go through every ground and connector for the 3rd time, nothing out of the ordinary.
So after dropping every name in the book, some I think the boy had heard for the first time, I try a hail mary. I break out the starting fluid and fog the intake upstream from the MAF sensor. Tap the pedal a couple of times and it fires then quickly dies.
No fuel right? Easy it must be bad parts? Yeah that didn't sound right a first either but what the hell lets install the old injectors and ... nothing.
Now I want to be clear that this isn't my first rodeo and I am very careful to not jack around and old wiring harness so I was extra careful when moving the main harness around and also careful with the engine harness itself so the possibility of it being a broken wire is low but I am not puttng anything out of the realm of possibility. I do have a low end code reader but there isn't anything stored so no help there. My last act yesterday was to order a Autel 808 so that I can actuate the injectors and the fuel pump plus see live data which I cannot do with my current scanner.
So thats my tale and if you made it this far I thank you for your time. Hopefully the old saying is true "misery loves company" and I can find someone out there that can point me in a positive direction.
#2
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SupremePrimate...
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Thanks for the response @gDMJoe
I have checked every fuse for voltage and each fuse for continuity (break). I have not checked the circuit. Would that be what you recommend? If so what am I looking for? Happy to do it.
Sorry I was tired and did not check the attachment. I do not have any DTCs set and the fuse does not show any signs of damage. Thanks for the tip though. The journey continues.
I have checked every fuse for voltage and each fuse for continuity (break). I have not checked the circuit. Would that be what you recommend? If so what am I looking for? Happy to do it.
Sorry I was tired and did not check the attachment. I do not have any DTCs set and the fuse does not show any signs of damage. Thanks for the tip though. The journey continues.
Last edited by SupremePrimate; 07-27-2022 at 08:45 AM.