PondJumper

I have a 2010 Supercrew, and my twin brother has a 2011 Tundra Crewmax. I test drove both trucks before buying, and here are my thoughts. Keep in mind that I have the 5.4 so, there will certainly be differences in motors if you are looking to buy a new motor model.

The Tundra is very quick for a truck, blows mine out of the water. This wasn't really an issue as I didn't buy a truck for speed, but it is nice to have extra 'get up.' The Tundra has a much better stock stereo system. This was a non issue as well as I knew I would upgrade regardless. The Tundra also has the totally awesome rear window that rolls all the way down. This may seem like a small deal but I think it's awesome.

Honestly, the one deal breaker I noticed after driving the Tundra first, and then the F150, is how cheap the interior of the Tundra feels. Not to bash the Tundra because it is an impressive truck, but the inside is where I'll be spending most of my time with a truck so the interior is kind of a big deal.

Now I'm sure you could choose the premium trim Tundra and get a somewhat better interior, but it goes further than just the fabric of the seats. The entire design of the cabin just feels like a cross between a mini van and a space ship. It just didn't sit right with me. So there, that is the main reason I went with F150 over Tundra. It wasn't because of any youtube video, or fuel economy, or even resale (as I plan on having my truck till the cows come home). It was because of the huge difference in the design of the interior. I hope this helps man.

hydro

^ as you mentioned you have the 5.4. Any new F150 will hang or even beat anything toyota offers when it comes to speed. Rear window rolls down, ok. Ford has tailgate step which I use Way more than my powered rear window. I may have used that option 2 times in 2 years. My tailgate step, now that gets used 3-4 times a week.
tundra impressive? not too impressive since their complete redesign consist of the same motors, no increase in MPG and a cheap attempt to copy Ford's interior.

21RRF150

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I wasn't serious, i was compounding the sarcasm of the post i quoted. Being on my phone 95% of the time I'm on here, i can't use all those icons that most use to convey sarcasm.

Secondly, not all of fords vehicles are produced in America. Example: if you own a Ford fusion or Lincoln mkz, you're contributing to the economy of Mexico.

Wilks54

I have owned a Jeep Grand Wagoneer, and that roll down back window turned out to be anything but awesome. Ended up hating it, and will never own a vehicle with a roll down back window again. But, this is JMO, your mileage will vary.

engineermike

How do you figure? 380 > 365 > 360

marinemike0931

Mike don't you run the ecoboost 1/4mile thread.... looking at the numbers on their, I'd make the same assumption in regards to f150 compared to tundra or even ram.
Even given that they're modded, I'd think if you did the same mods (intake exhaust and tune) I wouldn't think the tundra could run low-mid 13s

greywolf11

I was a first year owner of a 2007 Tundra Crewmax TRD 4x4. At the time the powertrain (power) was superior, in my opinion, to anything on the market. The Tundra was a great running vehicle, and mine wasn't as bad on gas as everyone usually reports. However given a choice between the Tundra and any of the current Big 3 truck offerings I wouldn't bite on the Toyota again.

First my Tundra had its fair share of nagging issues. The original radio died and was replaced. The cover on the center console broke and was replaced under warranty. The front rotors warped and were replaced under warranty. Before I traded it, the rotors were again beginning to have the washboard feel on braking on grade. It wasn't the stereotypical "my Toyota is perfect" vehicle.

I never experienced the bed bounce issue on the Crewmax, but when I test drove an extend Tundra I saw it first hand. I could see the vibration of the bed in the driver's rear view mirror.

My truck was a SR5 with TRD trim. I had leather and heated seats. But the rest of the interior was a weak spot for the truck. I utterly despised the pod style of the instrument cluster. The dash had a rattle from about 10K miles until it was traded. The exterior was ok with one exception. The chrome front bumper began rusting around the cutouts for the foglights. I kept this under control with constant sprays of WD-40, but there was rust definitely starting there when I traded the truck in 2011.

My biggest complaint however was with the 4wd system on the truck. The Tundra had to have the worst 4wd I've ever experienced. I had the stock BF Goodrich all terrains as well as two sets of Firestone Destination AT's on the vehicle. I've run these tires on other trucks and the traction issues I had with the Tundra were never experienced on the other vehicles with the same tires. Toyota called their rear diff a limited slip, but it was nowhere near a limited slip. It used the braking system to supposedly control wheel spin locking the spinning tire. Trouble was it just didn't work.

I've driven both Ford and GM trucks for years and have driven in snow, sleet, ice winter conditions since I first got my license. I could literally go in 2wd with either the blue oval or bowtie as well as this Tundra would manage in 4wd. My father who is a Toyota fan, had to admit it was the sorriest excuse for 4wd he'd ever seen.

I don't want to open up a good old fashioned Ford vs GM debate, but I currently drive a Silverado. No it doesn't have the power of the Tundra or the Ford, but with the g80 locker I have yet to have any problem going where I want or need to go. I imagine the Ford e-locker would be awesome as well.

As mentioned earlier the Air Induction Pumps on Tundras were prone to give trouble. Many people were stuck with $2000+ repairs on trucks just out of warranty.

When it comes to trucks there's a reason that people continue to buy American. (I don't know anything about Ram as I haven't owned one) If you are looking at a new F150 or Tundra, I would highly advise going with the Ford. Were I buying today I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Ford. I've seen and lived with the Tundra and just wasn't impressed.

hydro

Well, your statement will be half correct later this year. Fusion starts assembly in Flat Rock MI very soon. Of course I know Ford isn't solely in America. The Edge is assembled in Canada, etc.. Plus, with "one Ford" they are taking engineering and R&D from around the Ford globe

hydro

How do I figure? Maybe by real world racing and never seeing a tundra's tail lights yet. They aren't full blown kills, but the word "hang" means just that. Too close to say the turdra is the almighty racer. Numbers on paper (380>365>360) don't mean squat.

engineermike

Mod for mod, the ford probably wins. Stock for stock, it's the tundra.