Dealer is trying to Void my friends Warranty...
07-26-2012, 05:35 PM
#101
I don't want my daughter involved with a dishonest man either, sounds like the service manager has it right on both counts.
07-26-2012, 05:50 PM
#102
It turn out to be the water pump...that's why the other dealer replaced the pump with out any questions, and told him to bring the truck back to him any time he feels anything wrong with the truck, this dealer is one of the biggest Mustang dealer around our way, all you see there is Ford GT's, Cobras, shelby's, super charged Boss 302's...they have an in house Dyno to tune all them High Dollar, High Horsepower cars and Trucks. he told him that he can play with the hand held Tuner all he wants that the company's who sell them have a built in feature to only go so far before it destroys your vehicle...the reason why the service manager at the dealer where he purchased his truck gave him problems was of a personal matter, see my Friend is young single and has a few girlfriends, one being the Daughter of MR. Service manager she is 19, he is 25 I'll leave the rest to your imagination...
hmm.... seems to be, there's be a lot of screwing going on around that dealership.
08-03-2012, 10:57 AM
#103
Senior almost
I read the caption on this thread, the dealer is trying to void my friends warranty.... And it occurs to me it should be.... My friend voided his warranty and is now trying to force the dealer to fix it for free.....
08-03-2012, 11:14 AM
#104
Originally Posted by 2010FX4F150GILROY
I read the caption on this thread, the dealer is trying to void my friends warranty.... And it occurs to me it should be.... My friend voided his warranty and is now trying to force the dealer to fix it for free.....
08-03-2012, 11:28 AM
#105
Originally Posted by TruckLarry
Actually, in this case, said friend is messing with said managers daughter, and is using his warranty against him instead of a shotgun
I think just taking the truck to a different dealership would keep the peace between father and daughter, and prevent biases.... If you gotta pay, then you gotta pay. A different dealership would solve the issues because then your friend couldnt say that his gf's dad is to blame.
And if it was me, id sell the tuner to pay the repair bill and learned the lesson. Period.
But Thats just me.
Last edited by rigrat2011; 08-03-2012 at 12:35 PM.
08-03-2012, 12:00 PM
#106
You used to be able to return to a stock tune , drive it 50 miles or so and the dealership would never know. That was with the 4.6 and 5.4.
This is a hot topic on the mustang forums because once the 5.0 came out, ford has been able to see a complete history and can find any aftermarket tunes that were installed previously and removed.
This is a hot topic on the mustang forums because once the 5.0 came out, ford has been able to see a complete history and can find any aftermarket tunes that were installed previously and removed.
08-03-2012, 05:04 PM
#107
There is surely a way to flag and retain codes from tuners in the memory. That is how the Ethical Hacking and Intrusion Detection IT fields operate. They look for signatures and when one appears, it caused an alert. Yes, that is very simplistic but let's not delve into Computer Science too far.
So, what happens is when value X is changed, that command or new value is stored in a write protected area that can only be changed by an Admin. So even if you flash it back to stock or disconnect the battery, it is still there.
I have been in IT for a dozen or so years, and I am always hearing how things you think you deleted are never really gone. At best, things you delete are written over time and time again with nonsensical data but they are still there if you know how to find them.. It is the issue of time vs value of data. If I want to catch you surfing ****, that is not as high priority as finding bank account #'s or military secrets.
The only surefire way to hide what you have done on an electronic device that has memory is to physically destroy it.
So, what happens is when value X is changed, that command or new value is stored in a write protected area that can only be changed by an Admin. So even if you flash it back to stock or disconnect the battery, it is still there.
I have been in IT for a dozen or so years, and I am always hearing how things you think you deleted are never really gone. At best, things you delete are written over time and time again with nonsensical data but they are still there if you know how to find them.. It is the issue of time vs value of data. If I want to catch you surfing ****, that is not as high priority as finding bank account #'s or military secrets.
The only surefire way to hide what you have done on an electronic device that has memory is to physically destroy it.
08-03-2012, 05:47 PM
#108
Originally Posted by HorseTrader
There is surely a way to flag and retain codes from tuners in the memory. That is how the Ethical Hacking and Intrusion Detection IT fields operate. They look for signatures and when one appears, it caused an alert. Yes, that is very simplistic but let's not delve into Computer Science too far.
So, what happens is when value X is changed, that command or new value is stored in a write protected area that can only be changed by an Admin. So even if you flash it back to stock or disconnect the battery, it is still there.
I have been in IT for a dozen or so years, and I am always hearing how things you think you deleted are never really gone. At best, things you delete are written over time and time again with nonsensical data but they are still there if you know how to find them.. It is the issue of time vs value of data. If I want to catch you surfing ****, that is not as high priority as finding bank account #'s or military secrets.
The only surefire way to hide what you have done on an electronic device that has memory is to physically destroy it.
So, what happens is when value X is changed, that command or new value is stored in a write protected area that can only be changed by an Admin. So even if you flash it back to stock or disconnect the battery, it is still there.
I have been in IT for a dozen or so years, and I am always hearing how things you think you deleted are never really gone. At best, things you delete are written over time and time again with nonsensical data but they are still there if you know how to find them.. It is the issue of time vs value of data. If I want to catch you surfing ****, that is not as high priority as finding bank account #'s or military secrets.
The only surefire way to hide what you have done on an electronic device that has memory is to physically destroy it.
08-03-2012, 05:59 PM
#109
rigrat2011 -
That could be a solution, but Windows OS's will know if you take the hard drive and put it into another machine. The MAC address (Physical address of the network card or other hardware, my A+ Cert is far outdated) will not match.
I am not sure if a vehicle has the same handshake check. There may be something that checks the ID of the ECM and logs if it has had more than one installed.
That could be a solution, but Windows OS's will know if you take the hard drive and put it into another machine. The MAC address (Physical address of the network card or other hardware, my A+ Cert is far outdated) will not match.
I am not sure if a vehicle has the same handshake check. There may be something that checks the ID of the ECM and logs if it has had more than one installed.
08-03-2012, 06:20 PM
#110
I'm not sure which is more disturbing through all this discussion.
The fact that lying and cheating have become so common place in America that people will put their integrity aside instead of accepting responsibility for their own actions,
or that so many strangers will go out of their way to tell others how to get away with a similar deception.
The fact that lying and cheating have become so common place in America that people will put their integrity aside instead of accepting responsibility for their own actions,
or that so many strangers will go out of their way to tell others how to get away with a similar deception.
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